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Phelon
11/7/2007 10:31:42 AM
I did a search of the forums, and couldnt really find what i was looking for, But anyways, i have a 2001 mits eclipse spyder gt. Im currently working on getting my new clutch from competition clutch, unless someone else has a better suggestion. But anyways, after that im working on a turbo charger, I was looking at the ripp mods, but not really liking the set up. I want a straight TC, not a TC ran off a belt. But what is the best TC, best bang for the buck. I want people to know im boosted ;-). Also, is it true that with stock internals this car can only push 8psi without blowing? if so, then damn. I'll get new pistons and rods later later later on lol. Thanks.
blayze999
11/7/2007 10:49:48 AM
First things first... Run the flames are coming...

There's a lot of things you need to work on before you get that turbo if you want it done right... It is NOT an easy thing to do with these cars...

Be ready to drop 10k+ (at least) on the car... Right now I'm working on my build and I'm past 7500 and that's just getting my car ready to handle the boost...

I've got a built 6G74 that's getting put in December 21st, forged pistons and the works.. a Quiafe LSD, and a new clutch/flywheel...

That's just so when I get the turbo in my car isn't going to destroy itself...

As for what's the best way to go, there really aren't any pre-made kits around unless you get lucky with someone selling one... I'm working with a local guy to get mine built...

Don't know if it helps...

Oh, and a Turbo running off the belt is called a Super Charger... Same basic premise as a turbo except instead of it being powered by the exhaust it's powered by the belt...

Cheers,

~Mike
estraw
11/7/2007 11:22:59 AM
to add to that, in the end.. your still front wheel drive
blayze999
11/7/2007 11:30:29 AM
Shhh...

I'm convinced if I don't say it it's not true...

.....

~Mike
bk33
11/7/2007 12:05:49 PM
i'm fine with a front wheel drive turbo. look at the srt-4.  i read that you can push 6psi with no problem. so go for it.
estraw
11/7/2007 12:09:44 PM
i hate the srt-4's, thats a bad comparison for me lol. if all your looking for is a highway beast then by all means go for it, but if you want to hook up on the track at all your gonna need to do a sh!t load of suspension work and everything like that too
bk33
11/7/2007 12:15:43 PM
your right there is always wider tires.lol
Phelon
11/7/2007 12:24:16 PM
im not looking to make this a track beast man, but just an every day driven car, with boost. Who ever told me to drop 10k into it before turbo, needs to realize im not talkin anything over 8-10 PSI til i do get the new block and pistons/rods. But anyways, i knew that the vortec was a turbo with a pulley, called a super charger, thats why i dont want it, i dont like the idea of it. but anyways, if anyone can help me with a turbo kit i'd appreciate it, and thanks for all the input. 
estraw
11/7/2007 12:34:49 PM
ya a supercharger isnt really anything like a turbo, unless you get whats called a centrifugal supercharger, which is a belt driven turbo. but a supercharger has usually 2 "screws" which force air into the intake when the engine is spinning at any speed. a turbo's power is controlled by the driver by what is called a boost controller and all you have to do is turn a knob (on a manual boost controller) or push a button (on an electronic boost controller). however on a supercharger, if you wanted to change the amount of boost (amount of air forced into the engine.. rated in PSI) on a supercharger, you would need to buy a new pulley and install it. not to mention super chargers are generally a lot more $$$
WPSpyderGT01
11/7/2007 1:10:36 PM
5k for turbo setup 5k for built engine.  and a whole lotta other random **** to buy yea.. well over 10k im living proof.
blayze999
11/7/2007 1:55:27 PM
Haha fine ignore me...

I'll even refrain from saying "I told you so" when something breaks... I'm telling you what you've got to do to do it right...

Yes there is a margin that the stocks should take, but they are still crap...

You asked for advice and you got it... I realize what you want and what you need to realize is what you're getting yourself into...

And at this rate it is going to be one giant headache... If you're not willing to put in the investment and do it right you're asking for trouble...

~Mike
Wingo171
11/7/2007 5:01:37 PM
Save the money and find a 2G GSX burried in somebody's tall grass. Best advice you'll get.
Phelon
11/7/2007 6:19:16 PM



that is non-sense


Wingo171
11/8/2007 1:46:29 PM
Think whatever you want, but I picked up my GSX for $500. add another 10k to that and you have a GSX with 500WHP. I'll show my proof late this coming summer.
Phelon
11/8/2007 2:38:29 PM
This is a 6 cylinder for people who think its the 4 version...
ricanpunk
11/8/2007 2:51:40 PM
i'm trying to do the same thing man, ive got a 03 gt and im not trying to build a track monster just a badass daily driver. but im well aware that my stock internals aren't exactly the best out there. be prepared to spend way more later...i deffinitely am...
EMonz57
11/8/2007 2:55:36 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phelon

This is a 6 cylinder for people who think its the 4 version...
the 6 cyl part is the problem my firend lol.   TRUST ALL OF US.  I have owned 3 , 3g eclipses  I know them in and out.   the 4 cyl is better for power and ease.  the v6 literally should be left alone belive it or not it is not a sports car after its stock state or doesnt pull it off to easily.
 
you honestly are better off saving and getting a GSX that is the best advise youll get.  they are worth more and have the world of potnecial.  your car not so much.   If you had the GS or RS model then you would have alot more things you can do.  Ever notice there are a hell f a lot of RS GS 3gs that are turbo compared to the GT or GTS?  for one thing the I4 is basically a strocker Evo block.  so swap and Evo head and a evo turbo bolts right on talk about easy.
 
The GT can take 8 psi stock but it will break at some point
the GTS can only take like 5 PSI
the RS and GS can take like 14 PSI stock and with a evo head a little more.
 
Your comment above just proves to me and im sure most others here you should in no way be turboing your car , you dont know anything about it yet (no offense please).  you do understand you need alot more than just a turbo and IC right.  turboing a NA car is alot of work and alot of cash.  as stated prior to do it right you looking at $10k for a bill.  otherwise expect trouble like melted pistons , if your an auto a dead tranny you know all the things they are telling you to build up in prep for the HP.
Wingo171
11/8/2007 7:36:11 PM
For a turbo alone you need a couple grand, and for that you could start upgrading the motor and getting power and reliability (reliability when you turbo it, because any mods shorten the life of your motor). You'd need to upgrade pistons and rods, along with exhaust and cleaning up your heads. I'm not for sure what the stock block can hold, I think it's something like 450-500 HP, *somebody correct me if I'm wrong* but yeah, a daily driver with a good amount of power makes no sense at all.  You're just going to continue paying for it for the rest of your life in gas. More power = More gas and a higher octane level of that gas. Emonz, what kind of mileage do you get with a turbo'd 3gen GT ?
estraw
11/8/2007 8:31:56 PM
he never got around to finishing it because it was too expensive
ricanpunk
11/9/2007 5:44:29 AM
the whole octane thing is kind of insignificant....if you care about your GT then you're already running 93
Phelon
11/9/2007 11:37:50 AM
I do know about turbos. And i know the price of it. The plan is after i get the competition clutch, is to get the vortec supercharger. Which is basically a turbo ran off a pulley instead of exhaust. Its easier to set up than others i have encountered. And for you to say i dont know about FI, thats just irrelavent man. Like i said. I could go around pushin 5-8PSI on the stock internals, and later on once i get up the money, get new pistons and rods so i can push more boost without a problem. If the internals blow up at 5-8PSI, then it wont hurt me at all, if its not damaged too bad, i'll just go ahead and rebuild the internals. 
WPSpyderGT01
11/28/2007 8:27:34 AM
im letting you know they are all right.. with a gt you will only get to 8 psi which is roughly about 280 hp to 300hp if youw ant more of a power gain then 8 psi you have to redo your whole internals pistons. rods. basicly a short block.. and change out your tranny... if you dont want it to die... all together i have put in a crap load of money on the 2001 gt eclipse submodel spyder..
 
3500 for short block with refreshed heads - cp pistons - eagle rods. the 6g72 already come with forged cranks
3000 for the turbo setup.
1000 for gauges, emanage, pillar pods,
300 for the full 3 greddy exhaust
4000 for the new tranny im going to buy IPT
then that doesnt include me doing to rebuild my turbo to ball bearing..
which is like 100 to 200
then youneed the belts and fluids all changed including all gaskets for the overhaul..
 
ive spent way to much money.. but im happpy with the car... mike will probly love the car too tehe but its too much money just to get around 500hp... and worse.. if i want to upgrade some more..  i would have to do rebuilt heads. with meth inject and a AWD conversion.... which would be another what 10K?
 
Mobiledj
11/28/2007 10:25:36 AM
THis is why I come to this forum before I do any work on my vehicle ... to learn from those who have already gone through what I am going through. Or to learn from their mistakes.
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: blayze999

Haha fine ignore me...

I'll even refrain from saying "I told you so" when something breaks... I'm telling you what you've got to do to do it right...

Yes there is a margin that the stocks should take, but they are still crap...

You asked for advice and you got it... I realize what you want and what you need to realize is what you're getting yourself into...

And at this rate it is going to be one giant headache... If you're not willing to put in the investment and do it right you're asking for trouble...

~Mike
Dusty Eclipse
11/30/2007 7:27:56 PM
For the record, (and I didnt really read all the posts on this thread) I think it would be more worth it to try a 6g74 swap... 6g72 tends to not like forced induction... and can (like WP said) get rather pricey.
Workman2448
12/2/2007 3:35:05 PM
http://turbokits.com/eclipse_turbo_kits.html
 
Those are turbo kits. sooo here ya go
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