2006 Eclipse

I leased a 3G 2000 Eclipse GT for 3 years and it was a great little car. But it lacked the power and performance that I wanted so when my lease was up I got a 2003 Nissan 350Z. I love the Z car but overall I have to say that I preferred the quality of the Eclipse. My Z has just 20K miles on it and already has numberous interior rattles that the dealer refuses to fix. My Eclipse was rattle-free after 50K miles. With that in mind I am very interested in the new 06 Eclipse. But what is the deal with the engine?!?! Mitsu can make a 276 hp turbo 4 banger for the Evo but yet they are going to stick an oversized 3.8 liter V6 that only makes 263 hp into the new Eclipse. Can anyone explain this to me? Or has this question been beat to death already? My Z has 300 hp from a 3.5 V6. I prefer a non-turbo V6 to a turbo 4 so I like that part but I just can't believe that Mitsu is introducing this brand new MIVEC (whatever that is) V6 and it is only going to make 263 horses. I would love some feedback on this.

i think you need a new name

i, guess mitsu. is expecting us to extract more numbers???

we live in a country of people who like big engines whether they are efficient or not, and its cheaper for them design wise to get 260hp out of a big v6 than something smaller . you wont find an engine like that in japan though...

Mitsu needs a sports car that can compete with the 350Z. PERIOD. Mitsubishi makes good cars and it's just a shame that their best performer is a 4-door 4-banger grocery getter that only my Mom would drive. I'm not trying to offend all the rally guys out there, the Evo has it's place. I'm just saying that Mitsu needs a small 2-door sports car that can hang with the competition. I don't want a 4-door box-on-wheels. I want a high performance 2 seater or a 2+2 hatchback sports coupe.

Well then maybe you need to re-evaluate your desires there. Look at ALL the high proformance cars out there. How many come strictly in a 2 door or a 2+2 package? How many have 4 door versions that are JUST as good if not better than anything you drive? Before you start pickin somewhere you need to look at the styles and what is what. You may not EVER drive an Evo or WRX STi but that's probably 'cuz you can't handle a true perfomance machine. Looks aren't everything!

More room for u to figure out and add power yourself. I love eclipses and upgrading them, I was actually thinking about purchasing the 06 eclipse it looks really nice. Of course Id personally give it it some much needed power adjustments.

@Sanguinius:

"You may not EVER drive an Evo or WRX STi but that's probably 'cuz you can't handle a true perfomance machine."

Now that's just baiting me into an argument so I won't respond to that comment. My point is that I don't like 4-door cars. Looks may not be everything but they are at least 1/2 of it. The other half is performance and functionality.

just to let you all know the eclipse IS NOT SPORTS CAR. just for the fact that a true sports car has no back seat period! you are compairing apples to oranges. for expl. Corvette Viper Ferrari lamborghini mclaren. So if you want true preformance stock you will stop messing with cars like 350Z eclipse and so on and switch to a 500hp and up class. hell why dont ya go out and buy a lingenfelter corvette 0-150 in 9.2 sec. what im tring to get at is stop being such a winer and when the new eclipse comes out and people start puting trubos and superchargers on them then you might change your mind but until then i would appreciate you no coming onto a forum and making a flame post.

"a true sports car has no back seat period!" Then by your logic the 911 is not a true sports car.

And on that note, I'm not necessarily looking for a "true sports car". As I said I drove a 2000 Eclipse GT for 3 years and I loved it. It would just be nice if Mitsu could get more power out of the 3.8 V6 they are putting into the new Eclipse.

I dont know if they are still doing it but the orignal plan was to make it a hybred so when u mash it the v6 will kick on and when cruzing it would be electrical here is a site that has this Mitsubishi Eclipse Concept-E now im not 100% sure on the new one. the 350Z has only 280hp it is 20 hp differance between the 350Z and the new eclipse. depending on weight they may be an evan match. 350Z

One differance i did see is the eclipse is a SOHC and the 350Z is a DOHC

All the Z's have 300 hp whether it's listed on the specs that way or not. In the beginning Nissan was sandbagging the HP numbers of the Z to keep it under 300. Yes, the SOHC vs. DOHC could be the reason for the lower hp on the new Eclipse. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how much the final prodction cars weighs and see some real road tests. Either way I will test drive one once the initial craze is over.

no Z has 287HP listed right on nissans website not 300!Nissans 350Z page
the only ones that have 300HP is the Track and 35 anniversary edition costing 34-37 Grand.
the 350Z were dyno tested to have 280.

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ORIGINAL: get435

I dont know if they are still doing it but the orignal plan was to make it a hybred so when u mash it the v6 will kick on and when cruzing it would be electrical here is a site that has this Mitsubishi Eclipse Concept-E now im not 100% sure on the new one. the 350Z has only 280hp it is 20 hp differance between the 350Z and the new eclipse. depending on weight they may be an evan match. 350Z

One differance i did see is the eclipse is a SOHC and the 350Z is a DOHC

yeah, i, remembered this one....and it kicks i, think over 300 hp's

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ORIGINAL: pluckyduck

Mitsubishi makes good cars and it's just a shame that their best performer is a 4-door 4-banger grocery getter that only my Mom would drive. I'm not trying to offend all the rally guys out there, the Evo has it's place. I'm just saying that Mitsu needs a small 2-door sports car that can hang with the competition. I don't want a 4-door box-on-wheels. I want a high performance 2 seater or a 2+2 hatchback sports coupe.

Thats the stupiest comment i have ever read. I dont care whether or not you like 4-door cars, but
a) people in their 20's drive evo's who crave performance, i have yet to see a mom driving one
b) you think mitsu needs a sports car to hang with competition, you obvioulsy have no idea what you're talking about, since an evo can keep up with a murcialago around a track
c) you say 1/2 of buying a car is performance and functionality, exactly how functional is a 2 seater that cant fit **** in it??

sounds like you'd want something gay like a miata or a bmw z3. It'l be slow as hell, but at least its a 2 seater right?

Gee he COULD go for the gusto and just get a crotch rocket a little 1 seater LOL. Won't find Mom gettin groceries on THAT one :P

It seems that this is a juvenile forum. I will stick with other forums with more knowledgeable users from now on. I was looking for some insightful comments on the engine choice by Mitsu in the new Eclipse not a bunch of snotty comments.

you make ignorant comments and you'll get very similar responses no matter which forum you go to.

Yep like they say ask a stupid question get a stupid answer. Make a stupid comment get the same in return. Feel free to remain on the other forums with your "knowledgable people" and feel free to reduce THIER IQ's instead of ours.

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no Z has 287HP listed right on nissans website not 300!Nissans 350Z page
the only ones that have 300HP is the Track and 35 anniversary edition costing 34-37 Grand.
the 350Z were dyno tested to have 280.

i would just like to add dont make false statments saying your 350Z had 300HP.