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BLAZE GS
12/6/2007 4:02:12 PM
my buddy is thinking about buying a 98 eclipse rs and plans on turboing it in the future. good or bad idea? he said he would do interals
bestwiseguy
12/6/2007 4:05:28 PM
Bad idea, it would be alot cheaper to buy a gst or gsx and built it up.  Even after you spend over 3k to turbo a 420a, it would have the same power as a gst.
Sebba
12/6/2007 4:08:33 PM
Not worth it. GSX.
dsm1990gsx
12/6/2007 4:26:55 PM
Not a good idea since the 420a isn't a very reliable engine, I would go w/ a 1gen or 2gen gst or gsx.
Sebba
12/6/2007 4:43:12 PM
It is when its not turbo'd
dsm1990gsx
12/6/2007 5:03:06 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sebba

It is when its not turbo'd

 
Yeah I know and the fact they are also known for head gaskets too.
Sebba
12/6/2007 5:08:21 PM
Thats only because they werent clamped enough. 90% of them have been changed now so thats not an issue.
dsm1990gsx
12/6/2007 5:22:18 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sebba

Thats only because they werent clamped enough. 90% of them have been changed now so thats not an issue.

 
Ok well since its not an issue anymore and if you do in the direction of turboing it make sure the engine is mechanically in good shape to handle the upgrade.
 
Its probably a better to get a 1gen or 2gen gst/x and go w/ that, much more cost effective just like what everyone else said.
dorian7
12/6/2007 5:27:04 PM
GSX/GST
4g63419
12/12/2007 11:07:37 PM
I would recommend the same thing, because with a na car and turboing it, it make it more diffcult to sell. Because the car came non turbo and modding it with a turbo will attract less buyer {most people don't like a car that is highly modified by a unknown person} and a gst/gsx already have a turbo with it stock.
nick_200321
12/13/2007 4:15:21 AM
yep same response here, i have seen someone turbo a 420a and it blowed up lol... dont do it..
tx2u
12/24/2007 3:54:18 PM
Come on guys.  If you're going to bash the GS/RS guys atleast do it with accurate info.  For $3k, you can get a hanhs stg II kit will get the 420a to 275whp on 8lbs of boost on stock internals; that's 65whp more than a stock GS-T/GSX.
Dusty Eclipse
12/24/2007 6:59:28 PM
And for $3000 you can make a 4g63t a track terror.
Not just a little over stock.
tx2u
12/24/2007 7:27:19 PM
Dusty that's not the point that I was trying to make with my post.  I was just trying to correct a previous post that indicated for $3K the 420A platform can only get as good as a stock GST; which isn't the truth.  I know that the 420A can't get close to the 4G63T $ for $ spent on mods; hell you're already looking at a 70hp handicap between the 2 motors. 
 
I just don't get the point on why we can't help the GS/RS crowd by giving them decent & accurate info?  I can find more bashing threads than helpful threads when it comes to the GS/RS crowd.
Dusty Eclipse
12/24/2007 8:20:33 PM
Most 420aers try to swap to 4g63s... after years of ignorance... most DSMers are just fed up.
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