4g64 - 4g63

Hey guys, just trying to boaden my knowlege a little more and was curious.    The 4g64 and 4g63 are relatively the same engine other than the 64 being a 2.4 instad of 2.0... could you swap a 4g63t into a 2g spyder?    i don't think this topic has ever been brought up and i'm just curious.

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im pretty sure its almost the same amount of hassle and work as swapping it into a 420a engine bay. However swapping a 4g63 DOHC head onto the 4g64, now that you can do

hmm... i wonder what the problems would be?   how much better does the 4g63 DOHC head flow than the 4g64?

well the 4g64 on the spyder i believe is a SOHC so there is the big difference

it is, i was just wondering what kind of difference you would be expecting if you were to swap it.  i don't know much about the spyder's and i'm trying to be learned something lol

is this only realitive to the 2g? or can you swap a 63 head on to a 3g rs, gs?

i think you can. Becuase if i remember correctly alot of people would swap the EVO heads onto the 3g eclipse's

OK let me get in here since I have owned both engines.

The 2G spyder yes it can swap the GST motor in and it can also swap AWD drivetrain in as far as I know Its been done a few times unless they were GSt Spyders swapping in drivetrain, but I always understood it as 4G64 cars since the spyder from what I have seen has the same frame as the GSX due to needing to be stiffend up and reinforced.  The only main difference is the crank.  Alot of guy actually use a 4g64 crank to stroke their motors.  The 3G GS\RS is also a 4g64 but it is single cam and faces opposite the 2G DSM motor.  HOWEVER people can swap the Evo head in and it has been done a few times.  There is no poit swapping the block your better off for your money to build the bottom end of the 4g64 3G motor and turbo the car so you have a built stroked motor it is really no different from stroking an Evo motor if you swap the Evo head onto the 3g and the power gains end up becoming similar to an Evo minus the traction help of AWD

so your saying i can swap a 4g63 head on my 4g64 and turbo it? hmm. that would be sweet.  and possibly go awd? what kind of power gains am i looking at if i swap the heads? 20-25 hp?

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ORIGINAL: EMonz57

OK let me get in here since I have owned both engines.

The 2G spyder yes it can swap the GST motor in and it can also swap AWD drivetrain in as far as I know Its been done a few times unless they were GSt Spyders swapping in drivetrain, but I always understood it as 4G64 cars since the spyder from what I have seen has the same frame as the GSX due to needing to be stiffend up and reinforced.  The only main difference is the crank.  Alot of guy actually use a 4g64 crank to stroke their motors.  The 3G GS\RS is also a 4g64 but it is single cam and faces opposite the 2G DSM motor.  HOWEVER people can swap the Evo head in and it has been done a few times.  There is no poit swapping the block your better off for your money to build the bottom end of the 4g64 3G motor and turbo the car so you have a built stroked motor it is really no different from stroking an Evo motor if you swap the Evo head onto the 3g and the power gains end up becoming similar to an Evo minus the traction help of AWD

 
do all of the generations of evo's heads swap onto the 3g 4g64? or just a certain gen?

Ask and you shall receive...info that is 
Tuner's info....you know what to do.
The 2.4 L 4G63
Talk info.
7 bolt 4G64 build up w/ DOHC head
Club DSM Southwest
Project 4G64

This info goes towards the Spyder with a 4G64 also, or any car with a 4g64. 
There's a lot more info on this than that, but that should get you started.

cool Thanks alot

good stuff.  YAY Ron is on a learning curve with Spyders... lovin it!

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ORIGINAL: estraw

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ORIGINAL: EMonz57

OK let me get in here since I have owned both engines.

The 2G spyder yes it can swap the GST motor in and it can also swap AWD drivetrain in as far as I know Its been done a few times unless they were GSt Spyders swapping in drivetrain, but I always understood it as 4G64 cars since the spyder from what I have seen has the same frame as the GSX due to needing to be stiffend up and reinforced.  The only main difference is the crank.  Alot of guy actually use a 4g64 crank to stroke their motors.  The 3G GS\RS is also a 4g64 but it is single cam and faces opposite the 2G DSM motor.  HOWEVER people can swap the Evo head in and it has been done a few times.  There is no poit swapping the block your better off for your money to build the bottom end of the 4g64 3G motor and turbo the car so you have a built stroked motor it is really no different from stroking an Evo motor if you swap the Evo head onto the 3g and the power gains end up becoming similar to an Evo minus the traction help of AWD

do all of the generations of evo's heads swap onto the 3g 4g64? or just a certain gen?

no just the Evo VII VIII and IX

...and EVOs 1-3...since they are the same 4G63 heads as the Eclipse/Talon

Ive seen a couple 3gens that had the evo heads on them...  It caught me off gaurd at first, but looks better than just the regular head on it.. 

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ORIGINAL: silvercoupe97

...and EVOs 1-3...since they are the same 4G63 heads as the Eclipse/Talon

well not the 3G though.... he asked about the 3G GS|RS which can only take the VII VIII and IX head