50trim or 20g

http://dsmparts.com/customer/home.php?cat=166 ......look at the  50 trim they have here...also the 20g...look at the price diffrence....now can i get better performance out of the 50 trim...maybe a little slower spool....but my goal is a 400+ daily driver....

i would go with the 50 trim if you're trying to hit 400ho, cuz the big 16g usually craps out around 350hp. eother way with such a high hp car it'll be a pain in the b***d to drive every day

I think he's comparing the 20g to the 50 trim.  I would also go with the 50trim for anything over 400 hp.

.50 trim FTW.

yeah well either way i'd go with the 50 trim, and if you get a bb 50 trim it'll spool a bit faster if you're worried about it. although on emonz's u can't tell it's a bb cuz it takes him a year to spool up,lol

the 50trim no matter what will lag alot more than a Mitsu turbo like the 20g or anything smaller.   I hit full boost atound 4000RPMs and when it hits it hits hard.   Ill take the lag it more fun.  that way if your racing someone they think they winning then all of a sudden they hear the SCREAMMM of my wastegate and my car flys right by.    When I was at the track that happend to me.   I mis launched I was racing a STi that was slow.  he had me by like a car or two.  all of a sudden I hit boost and blow by him.  Right after he walks over to me and says "WTF?  WTF do you have done to this thing, it sounded sick and it freakin flies"

haha that's awesome, i saw that happen to this tt 300zx when it raced a cobra. the cobra had the 300zx by at least 2 cars, and everyone thought the mustang was gunna win, but the 300zx flew by him at the end. the driver of the mustang got soo mad, it was hilarious

the big difference is gonna be that with the 20g you can bolt it on to the stock manifold. But for that much HP i dont think your gonna want to be running a stock manifold anyway

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ORIGINAL: TheEngineer

the big difference is gonna be that with the 20g you can bolt it on to the stock manifold. But for that much HP i dont think your gonna want to be running a stock manifold anyway

there are ALOT of big differences.
 
Manifolds
o2 housings
downpipe
oil/water lines
Fitment
20g will hit full boost at like 3200RPMS vs 4000rpms
they can make similar power but the 50trim will make more up top
 
The 50trim is good if you plan to try and upgrade at a later time, all you will need to get is a turbo rather than the entire deal again.  plus if you want to run meth or race gas the 50trim can reach 500hp  the 20G wont get out of mid 400 range

the 50trim on there site claims you can reuse the stock manifold and what ever DP you have for the stock turbo.   Im not so sure than can even be done though

the only way that would be possible if they think u're gunna run the same setup that ams sells on there site. that's the only place i've seen a bolt up to stock manifold 50 trim setup. here's the link http://www.amsperformance.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=41_89&products_id=452

see thats what i dont understand it claims to bolt right up...besides that i need a new manifold any ways..as for the o2 housing and downpipe im confused ...when i purchase the turbo i wanna make sure i got everything i need ...maybe run a tial wastegate....as for an intercooler will sbr's work will i need to weld a j pipe? also heard that the tubular manifold(which i want) wasnt any good for a daily driver....any suggestions....and if i wanna run say 10psi daily but have the option of 25 pounds what size injectors and fuel pump...also will i need fuel pressure regulator..i plan on spendin 4000 on the motor and 2000 on suspension....<any setup that can do a 2 or more inch drop...thansk

$4000 will not cut it.   I have like $10,000 in my motor of my evo and all to run the 50trim.   I runa tubular manifold and it cause me no issues driving not that I drive it daily it sees about 3000 miles a year. 
 
and if your going to only run 10 psi on a 50trim then your car will just plain be slow.  the turbo doesnt come alive untill 25-30PSI.  Plus you would need a wastegate with a 10lbs spring.  Either way I run 24PSI daily on 93 pump gas.  I have 720cc denso fuel injectors and walbro 255lph fuel pump in my evo and that is all, BUT youll need an FPR if your run a 255lph pump.  cams are a good idea and head studs are a must

so i need to put 10000 in my motor in order to run 400+hp...

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ORIGINAL: spyder4g63t

so i need to put 10000 in my motor in order to run 400+hp...

Not at all.  But running a 50trim in generall you need more than $4k lol.   You can run 400HP on they 20G, by a tubular manifold for a stock replacment, and ported o2 housing, 720cc injectors, a fuel pump 255lph or 190, cams, head studs ect ect im sure I can go on. 
 
It really depends what you have already but to get 400HP you need to change alot of stuff and get tuning of some kind $4k will not likely cut it or even come close.  of course you can scratch som things I am saying to get but , if you belive in doing it right hte first time then id do them

Ya, you would be better off trying to get 350hp...   That you can get to, with a smaller budget..

yeah with 4k it sounds like you're better off going with the 20g and actually doing it right, and aiming for 350hp

but the 20g is more money then the 50 trim.. ..how would it be cheaper...if i still gotta get injectors,fuel pump...manifold,gauges,etc......also i dont need 400+ right away.. i can have 350 for now safely if thats the promblem....50 trim with injectors fuel pump and gauges mbc for now..will that work and also rear wheel drive conversion...eclipse drifting...nonsense....first to do it..or waste

Well the difference between the 20g and the 50trim is that the 20 spools way faster, as to the 50 trim makes all its power uptop in the top end speed. And like every1 says if you get a 50 trim you better have the mods to support it otherwise its pointless, and a 20g doesn't needa new manifold we already told you that. Just get injectors,pump,fpr, ic and pipes, afc and slap a 20g on it you'll be good,I might be missing sumthing so please chime in

Well the difference between the 20g and the 50trim is that the 20 spools way faster, as to the 50 trim makes all its power uptop in the top end speed. And like every1 says if you get a 50 trim you better have the mods to support it otherwise its pointless, and a 20g doesn't needa new manifold we already told you that. Just get injectors,pump,fpr, ic and pipes, afc and slap a 20g on it you'll be good,I might be missing sumthing so please chime in
Oh and cams would be good too

well i need a new manifold anyway caunse my is rusted and it also has a hairlne crack in it ...so with all the supporting mods and even 272 cams the 20g is only gonna produce 350..on what boost...and also what will the turbo top out ..boost?and hp?

350 is easy to get with the 20g..  You should be able to get that around 22 lbs I would think..  Not sure what im pushing for power, but my 20g gets up and moves at 16-18 lbs..

A friend of mine that had a 20g setup in his galant, said his 20g was really only good up till about 27 lbs of boost though..  Im not sure since I havnt had mine over 18.