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Nuggethead 420
9/19/2005 11:04:31 AM
Still a sloppy drift when steering. Having to correct for the slop.
get435
9/19/2005 12:29:56 PM
what did they fix at the tire place?
Nuggethead 420
9/27/2005 2:54:26 PM
They did a front end alignment. But it still feels like the car is going to come out from under me. seems like a sway from side to side.
Going only about 10 mph around a corner the tires squeel???
The tires have the correct tire pressure. Everything is tight lugs that is.
I am at a complete loss!!!
Too much side to side sway feels like you are going to loose control.
get435
9/27/2005 3:06:32 PM
so you did not get a 4wheel alignment?
Sanguinius
9/27/2005 3:28:29 PM
Wow well this is an OLD thread brought back up. So you got an alignment and still haven't fixed the problem? Is there any change from the original problem? A bent rim could lend to the problem and not necessarily be visible (I have a bent rim that you'd NEVER know it was bent until you tried to balance it). But you SHOULD notice a bent rim at ALL speeds (Mine shook the car bad enough that I thought it was gonna fall apart). If you had a full 4 wheel alignment then you need to start looking into other problems. Obviously it's not brakes cuz the brakes aren't involved in normal highway driving when you are feeling it. Possibly check tie rod ends and the wheel bearing. Check the tires for abnormal wear now that you have a bit more mileage on the vehicle. You may not have been able to notice the wear previously due to the problem being new. Hopefully this helps a bit in some abscure way.
get435
9/27/2005 3:33:31 PM
it may just be me but if you had a front end only alignment that the problem can still be the alighnment of all four wheels.
Sanguinius
9/27/2005 3:37:55 PM
Yeah that's why we need to know if it was a 4 wheel alignment or just a 2 wheel.
Nuggethead 420
9/29/2005 12:35:05 PM
4 wheel alighnment. Front wheel bearings feel good no play. Tires plus said they are still solid as well
Tie rod ends are new. what about bushings? Are there any bushings that once worn could cause this problem
Rims are straight. tire wear is good and even
get435
9/29/2005 2:51:01 PM
are the tries ballanced are the weights still on them? do they have any inperfections susch as bubbles bluges anything?
Nuggethead 420
9/29/2005 3:34:26 PM
The Tires have all the weights on them and no bulges in the side wall or anywhere else.
I had heard bushings, sway bar and control arm bushings.
Does this sound like it may be a cause?
eclipsed4u
9/29/2005 4:02:47 PM
just so you guys know, a warped rotor CAN cause the car to shake at cruising speeds(above 60). if it was me, i would replace the rotors with higher quality rotors(check out Powerslot). not only as a way to *maybe* cure the shaking, but higher quality rotors won't warp as easily as the autozone ones.

you said that the tires are worn evenly. just how worn are the tires? are they fairly new, ok to drive on, or on their last leg?
get435
9/29/2005 4:44:50 PM
i belev he already checked the roters.
Sanguinius
9/29/2005 4:58:47 PM
Well so far I think we've covered all the bases available. The car hasn't been in any previous accidents has it? I had a Sundance that I hit a deer then a ditch with that the problems didn't become evident until 2 months down the line when the K frame snapped and almost sent me off the side of an overpass onto the freeway below.
Nuggethead 420
9/30/2005 12:31:07 PM
No accidents. Tires have approx. 8,000 perelli the car is a summer car so it never sees the snow or cold.
I just dont want to buy $$$$ worth of rotors and still end up with a shake the rotors are not far out ground within .002
That should not cause the problems I am seeing. There is plenty of meat left onthe tires at least one more season.
Sanguinius
9/30/2005 4:18:14 PM
Well you've definately got me baffled. I can't think of anyhing else that would cause that kind of problem. Do the pads have even wear? And are they still attached well to the backing plates?
eclipsed4u
9/30/2005 4:33:35 PM
hes got me too
Sanguinius
9/30/2005 7:09:41 PM
I'd say if he knows someone that has a true flat block (I can't remember what exactly they're called but they're used for determining warpage and whatnot in low tolerance applications) I'd say take the rotors off and check all 4 of them. Also check the brake calipers maybe one of them isn't working right? Check the pistons on the calipers see if they're cocking when coming out. Possibly check the bolts that hold the caliper in place? Those are the last things I can guess...
get435
10/2/2005 8:12:15 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nuggethead 420

No accidents. Tires have approx. 8,000 perelli the car is a summer car so it never sees the snow or cold.
I just dont want to buy $$$$ worth of rotors and still end up with a shake the rotors are not far out ground within .002
That should not cause the problems I am seeing. There is plenty of meat left onthe tires at least one more season.

so why dont you spend 20-30 and get the front rototrs turned?
Sanguinius
10/2/2005 11:15:47 AM
Most places now a days won't turn rotors. At least not new rotors because the new rotors are made witha softer metal. I read an article in a magazine once about this. When they stopped using asbestos in brake pads they had to use a softer metal for the rotors to stop the squealing when you hit the brakes. So instead of turning rotors they just recommend replacing them.
get435
10/2/2005 11:59:38 AM
any macine shop will do it i just had mine done on a 4 runner they said as long as the roters are thick enogh they will do it. 15 a roter.
Sanguinius
10/2/2005 1:19:43 PM
We never turned rotors but then again with the safety inspections here they're pretty strict on rotor thickness and most people don't bother thinking about rotors until it's too late.
get435
10/2/2005 1:23:23 PM
dont get me wrong i suggest he gets new ones but just to see if they are the problem here do this go to a junk yard and get a pair that look stright see if they work if the shake stops or just turn those ones.
Sanguinius
10/2/2005 1:25:33 PM
Now that's a good idea. I hadn't thought about snagging a pair from a junkyard and trying them.
Nuggethead 420
10/3/2005 7:45:03 AM
The rotor were ground here at work. Big machine shop and it helps to be tight with the machinists, and be a former turned design engineer. So every body is focused on the rotors. Why that They are ground and run true by the indicator.
Is that they only componant on the front end? does anyone know about the bushing situation on the front or has no one ever had any problems with that in the past?
Any steering lash adjust or other variables that would cause a similar condition?
get435
10/3/2005 8:04:45 AM
have you checked the half shafts? it maybe that one of the joints that is under the rubber boots is or has gon out so bad it is causing a lot of front end shake.
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