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19gst98
4/30/2008 6:23:35 PM
so where is a good place to buy a 16g turbo kit? lol
Sebba
4/30/2008 6:38:38 PM
dorian7
4/30/2008 10:23:42 PM
www.dsmparts.com is another good one. Don't forget you need the install kit too.
tjbiker031
4/30/2008 10:45:36 PM
and stay away from ebay, i heard stories where the turbo dies after one pull
19gst98
5/2/2008 11:10:13 PM
any other suggestions? lol
silvercoupe97
5/3/2008 2:09:08 AM
I would suggest skipping the big16G and going with the Evo316G from one of the sites suggested above or my favorite...
Forced Performance The compressor wheel on the E316G is slightly larger than the B16G and both are usually the same price.
As suggested, don't forget to either put a kit together yourself or buy a 2G kit. A suggestion to you, get the larger 34mm wastegate flapper or you will boost creep if the turbo is set lower than 18psi.
TheAdvocate
5/3/2008 6:58:50 AM
sk8dudety
5/3/2008 9:18:25 AM
i have a question, something that might clarify something for him and me haha... is there a difference between a e316g and a big e316g? cause i'm pretty sure i've heard of teh big e316g and wasnt sure if it was just an added word they tagged onto it
TheAdvocate
5/3/2008 9:30:53 AM
I dunno about that. But there is a difference in the BIg 16g turbo and a normal 16g turbo. Im not sure of the actual codes on them..
silvercoupe97
5/3/2008 4:04:00 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: sk8dudety
i have a question, something that might clarify something for him and me haha... is there a difference between a e316g and a big e316g? cause i'm pretty sure i've heard of teh big e316g and wasnt sure if it was just an added word they tagged onto it
Forced Performance suggests that the E16G has a slightly larger compressor wheel over the B16G.
I don't recall ever hearing about a "big" e316g though. It sounds to me like someone was trying to make the e316g bigger than it really is or was suggesting that it is "bigger" than the b16g and tagged it with "big". My suggestion is to research the facts and go from there. The sleeper 16g is the only 16g variant that is e316g worthyand that thing is more than double the price of the other two 16g variants. Check FP's site, they tell the tale of the four 16g variants.
Sebba
5/3/2008 4:38:31 PM
Yeah Silver is right. I think that is just the different things that people call it.
As far as having the 34mm flapper, that is an absolute must. The 32mm is so inadequate its not even funny. If you can spare the extra cash I recomend going for an external gate even.
Erick21
5/4/2008 12:22:04 PM
So which one is the best one to buy..... I am debating on the Sleeper 16g or the Evo III 16g.. both are capable of 400 whp right? also is it better to get the turbo cliped?
Sebba
5/4/2008 12:39:33 PM
Actually the E316g flows a little better, and so has a higher max output (380).
Getting the turbo clipped will help you with spool up, as well as porting. If you want to get that done, then go for it.
Also, get the 34mm flapper!
19gst98
5/5/2008 4:31:01 PM
yeah from what ive looked at and seen its just them throwing in that extra word so you will buy it.
but anyway this is my parts list to take a stock 2g to evo3 16g which ive decided on.
Evo 3 16g, and im ordering the 34mm flapper on that due to popular request. lol
2g install kit
walbro 255
walbro install kit
fmic
am i missing anything, upgrading cause i blew up the stock one, im also replacing the head gasket while in there to allow more boost.
sound like an ok set up?
dorian7
5/5/2008 4:45:28 PM
I don't know why but I know that RRE doesn't offer clipping on the Evo III. I don't think that it is benificial or maybe it can't be done. I don't know but as far as your list you still need a wideband fuel gauge, and a Fuel controller AFC. and High Pressure Fuel reg. and bigger injectors 660cc. If you want to run above 15psi
19gst98
5/5/2008 5:18:11 PM
so i couldnt run about 17-18 psi on stock injectors and standard pressure on a walbro 255
silvercoupe97
5/5/2008 6:02:07 PM
The fuel pump doesn't matter if the injectors can't pass that fuel down the chambers. In the end, you'll overrun your injectors and fuel regulator. I didn't see and aftermarket fuel regulator in there, so add that too or you'll overrun the stock regulator with that aftermarket Wally. Btw, you don't need a 255 if you don't plan to go bigger any time soon. A 190 or an Evo fuel pump will work well for the E316G. Come to think about it. An Evo pump would be your best bet. I believe they were good up to around 240. Don't forget about fuel control. SAFCII or the likes, if you're on a budget, even a MAF+T. I would suggest a SAFC over the MAF+T, but that's just me. Hell, I would suggest DSMLink, but for a starter...SAFC.
One more suggestion...don't install any of it until you get all of it. Don't halfass it now or you'll pay for it later 2 fold.
Actually, you can install the turbo since you stated that your old one is dead, but don't go over 10-15 (depending on your motor's condition and tune). Keep in mind that 10psi from an E316G is a lot more than from a T25 at the same setting.
19gst98
5/6/2008 6:13:50 PM
so if i could get a evo 3 fuel pump could i run stock injectors and fuel regulator and run bout 15psi? im looking for a moderate horsepower gain and maintaining a budget cause i need this thing running again. or would i need fuel regulator, safc and injectors and wideband fuel guage regardless. i guess what im trying to get at whats the cheepest way to go from stock to an evo3 16g. bout ready to tell the mechanic to get all evo 3 oem parts, injectors pump turbo all that crap and it prolly would be a improvement over stock. lol im in deep on this one now lol
dorian7
5/6/2008 8:51:36 PM
I have an evo 3 on my GSX and I run 15psi fine on the stock fuel set up. I would not got even .1 over tho. You should be fine. You can do that stuff later.
silvercoupe97
5/7/2008 1:41:17 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: 19gst98
so if i could get a evo 3 fuel pump could i run stock injectors and fuel regulator and run bout 15psi? im looking for a moderate horsepower gain and maintaining a budget cause i need this thing running again. or would i need fuel regulator, safc and injectors and wideband fuel guage regardless. i guess what im trying to get at whats the cheepest way to go from stock to an evo3 16g. bout ready to tell the mechanic to get all evo 3 oem parts, injectors pump turbo all that crap and it prolly would be a improvement over stock. lol im in deep on this one now lol
Sorry, I meant an EVO VIII or IX not the III.
Here's a FAQ from this site that I did way back when.
Fuel and the E316G quote:
ORIGINAL: dorian7
I have an evo 3 on my GSX and I run 15psi fine on the stock fuel set up. I would not got even .1 over tho. You should be fine. You can do that stuff later.
That's true Dorian, but I wouldn't recommend it right off the bat. I would still start at 10psi and work up to 15psi. Remember that every motor is different
19gst98
5/7/2008 4:14:25 AM
yeah sounds like a plan to me my motors got high miles but im rerplacing the head gasket and we can see the shape in there, ill prolly set it at 10 and work up to 15 which i could settle for now
sk8dudety
5/7/2008 5:46:55 AM
i would check ur compression on all the cynlinders as well before you pull it apart and change the headgasket
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