Cheapest/Easiest way to 200hp on GS

Like the title says it......


What is YOUR cheapest and easiest way to 200hp on a GS?

CAI, DC header, up your exhaust piping to 2 3/4 but end it just after the second O2 sesor (it will be loud but its cheaper than a full exhaust. plugs n wires n then add about a 100 shot of nitrus. your car wont last long but it will get you the HP your wanting.

lol, i dont think it'd make it past the 100shot nitrous.

there isnt a cheap way to obtain power, if you go the cheap route it will cost more in the long run replacing the bottom end time and time again. a turbo kit will get you there and far behond I am sure and that is before needing a motor built up. other than that 200HP isnt much and it isnt worth risking your motor with N2o just to get there.... just my opinion

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ORIGINAL: EMonz57

there isnt a cheap way to obtain power, if you go the cheap route it will cost more in the long run replacing the bottom end time and time again. a turbo kit will get you there and far behond I am sure and that is before needing a motor built up. other than that 200HP isnt much and it isnt worth risking your motor with N2o just to get there.... just my opinion

i agree with you but he asked so i answered. with modding it never pays off to take short cuts or take the cheap route, if it was mine i would do an AEM V2 intake and DC headerand a custome 2 3/4 mandrel bend exhaust with a universal muffler of some sort (for me louder is better.i dont mind pissen cops off). NGK wires n plugs. all this in mind if your ganna keep her N/A, if in the long run you want turbo disregaurd it, get an MSD box also those help. UR makes crank pullies but nothing else n thats what sucks about N/A. you can ditch your A/c that will save space n loose weight, an after marken clutch n flywheel would also be a good idea n never throw oyt the idea of usen nitrus maybe a 50 shot.

Thanks guys for the posts the 2nd post of urs was alot better than the first :P.
I was going to do my monte up but am now deciding on getting the gs and selling my gas guzzler monte ss.



nos is the final product I would put in my car.

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ORIGINAL: maclawa

Thanks guys for the posts the 2nd post of urs was alot better than the first :P.
I was going to do my monte up but am now deciding on getting the gs and selling my gas guzzler monte ss.



nos is the final product I would put in my car.

a turbo is a much safer way to go. and it isnt nos it is N2o or nitrous (just busting your balls thats all LOL). but if you use N2o then it isnt nessesarily still a N/A motor. Nitrous is a form of Forced induction. without FI it would be very very tough to get 200HP.

I honestlythink if you save for a turbo kit youll be much better off and even more happy. but it is your car you mod however you see fit

hmm, I didnt think it'd be that hard to add 50hp without turbo. 10-15 for intake 10-20 for catback and about 5-10 for headers no? and then some little stuff to help it out.

but oh well i'll get it AS CLOSE TO 200 as possible lol and then turbo

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ORIGINAL: maclawa

hmm, I didnt think it'd be that hard to add 50hp without turbo. 10-15 for intake 10-20 for catback and about 5-10 for headers no? and then some little stuff to help it out.

but oh well i'll get it AS CLOSE TO 200 as possible lol and then turbo

your car is 150BHP but at the wheels you are looking at 110 WHP or so. so at the crank ading 50HP isnt much but your still looking at only haveing 130-140WHP which is only going to run you around a low 15 sec 1/4 miles time..... To me that is slow no offense to anyone there but to spend that much money and not gain alot I wouldnt do it. you figure a turbo kit would cost alot to but $4000 and gain 120WHP is well worth is.

I mean for example a 2000 RS eclipse 4G64 2.4L dynos 109HP stock and with the old AAI (now tearstone) turbo kit it dynoed 275WHP at only 8PSI and they are able to put out around 14 PSI on the stock motor. and the turbo kit comes with most of the stuff listed as items you should buy I.E. exhaust, intake, fuel ect ect. only extra needed parts after the purchase of a turbo kit is the guages in most cases and a new clutch( if your a Manual).

again this is just my thoughts and what I would want to do if it were me

wow thanks I never would have known that information :).

Where to begin....

For a n/a car you want back pressure to build hp so a 2 inch restictive exaust is something that would give you more gains

The 420a only has 140bhp, and most 420a eclipses are getten high miles meanning that not many have that hp, loss of compression due to wear

The car can hold 100 shot of n2, some kids on ****.com shoot 125 on the stock bottom end... it dosent last long but you can get some runs in.

N/a Mods are alot like masturbating... your fu3ken your self, their is no possible way to obtain 200hp on boltons with out either rebuilding the motor or n2.

The stock ignition on the 420a is good up to 15psi wise for n/a mods if you dont have cams dont bother getting a msd anything its a waste of money.

Turbo is deff the way to go on a 420a if your looking for performance. If you want performance out of a n/a car get ready to pay... if you dont drive a 97 then forget about it. The ecu pinouts for everyyear are different on the 420a eclipse/talon. Howellautomotive.com is the only company that currently makes a chip/ecu for the 420a eclipse/talon and its for 97's only. Gary(owner of howell) refuses to make it for anyother year becuase the profit isant there. The chip runs about 400 bucks and offers alot, but its ideal for the drag cam kit that crane makes for the car.

You mentioned that you want to get as close to 200 hp as you can before you turbo it, lots of mods that you do would have to be removed for this, (hotter plugs, hedder, ect) in reality your wasting money. What you should do is figure out exactly what you want from the car, either a track time or a non specific goal(fun street car). After that decide what would be the most reliable cost efficent way to obtain that. Say if you want a mid 14 sec run go 2nd stage turbo, not a **** load of boltons. If you want a fun street car, and dont mind only running a 16 sec 1/4 mile then bolt the hell out of it.

I recomend that you read both stickys at the top of this forum. gs/rs performance, and how to build a track terror 420a. Also on www.2g nt.com(remove the space) and check out their performance guid for n/a motors. Also checking out gsgoingfast custom turbo kit on dsm tuners.com(remove space) and corbins 420a build up on 2g nt.com(remove space) will also shead light on the subject.

very thorough post and thank you very much for the information you provided.

I learn something new everyday.

Thanks guys for the posts

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