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Christian1
3/6/2007 12:42:18 AM
Hey!
 
Everyone has heard about the whole ball bearing joint on the 2007 Outlanders. I THOUGHT I was one fo them and had an issue, so I took my Outlander (which I LOVE, by the way - my first SUV after all my life dirving sports cars) and they changed the "joints" on the car.
 
Well it did not fix my problem at all. The dealership service manager is flabergasted by the issue and is contacting Mitsu about it.
 
The problem? When I first turn on the vehicle in the morning, I let it warm up a bit (the temp gauge has to move twice before moving the car slowly to ensure oil is flowing ok). I back out the car (either in 2WD or 4WD auto) and then begin moving forward. As soon as the vehicle is moving forward on its own, I LIGHTLY begin accelerating and then I hear "clank". Just that once. Then when I park the car and it cools down for 5 mins and I begin moving forward again, then we hear the "clank" again.
 
It is getting me quite concerned. Does anyone have a similar problem? Any ideas on what it is? The car is barnd new, it only has 650 miles on it and I BABY all my cars.... very strange. Oh, it's not the cold weather, as I live in FL and the coldest it has been since I got the car is 40 at night.
 
Please help!
 
Thanks!
 
Ps. I plan on contributing quite a bit in this forum. I play with cars a lot. One issue I plan on addressing here is the radiator and ATF cooling lines, which are dangerously positioned in this car and w/o a "safety net" of some sorts, a flying rock from a truck my bust the line in front of the radiator and cause at leats $600 of damage. But this will be talked about here later. :)
 
Thanks!! ^_^
rcpax
3/6/2007 2:05:21 AM
Did they fit in the redesigned parts? I had this issue too, but the service manager knew that redesigned parts have to be fitted, and the problem was 100% solved. I have heard of other members having this "fix" but parts fitted in where the same design as the original bearings so the "fix" didn't work at all.
OTO27
3/6/2007 6:12:58 AM
I have this problem, but then again I still have not taken it to the dealer due to back order of the bearings.
antlip
3/6/2007 7:38:43 AM
Take a look at this trend http://www.mitsubishiforum.com/m_114144/tm.htm
 
It has the service bullentin. Make sure they changed the wheel bearings and snap rings. You mentioned they changed the "joints", is that all they changed?
soundcolor
3/6/2007 8:08:26 AM
i am going to go with they just didnt do it right, because there is a certain way those bearing, and snap rings go together, if they get it wrong, it'll do it again.
i am going with this, cause the idea that it could be either the trans, center diff, or rear diff, would most likely hurt your feelings.
wymanc
3/6/2007 4:17:49 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: OTO27

I have this problem, but then again I still have not taken it to the dealer due to back order of the bearings.

 
Same here...
Manybrews
3/6/2007 5:57:07 PM
its the bearings.   There are 3 pages to that TSB, and the other two tell of an exact series of installation directions that need to be followed.  There is a special grease that goes with that TSB.

at any rate, thats the only noise (or problem at all) we've seen on the new outlanders.
blackb13
3/6/2007 5:58:47 PM
It's probably this:


GROUP 35 Service Brakes : ABS Pump Noise (Update): 2006-07 Eclipse, 2007 Eclipse Spyder and Outlander : ABS System Conducts a self-check to ensure it is functioning properly the first time the vehicle reaches approx 2.5 mph. During the self check, a "clunking" noise will be heard from the right front of the engine compartment. The noise only occurs the first time the vehicle is driven after the engine is started. It will not reoccur until the engine is restarted. This noise is a normal operation of the ABS System. Do not attempt to repair this condition.
07OUTLANLEXANI
3/6/2007 6:58:27 PM
i got my bearing replaced a week ago and i have no noise it seemed to fix the promblem with the clunk noise
antlip
3/6/2007 7:04:27 PM
I go saturday to have them listen for the noise. Im going to drive 32 miles there and 32 miles back just so they can order the parts that I know I need. Then once they get them in I will have to drive another 64 miles for them to actually replace the bearings. I called 3 dealerships and complained that they should just order the bearings since its a know problem and I shouldnt have to drive there and back 4 times to fix their problem.
soundcolor
3/6/2007 8:56:50 PM
you could not be more right, but its like ford, my old man has a 06 f350 diesel dully. The other day, he was pulling an empty goosneck, pulled up to a four way, and it died. Took it to ford, they told him it was most likely a bad cam sensor, that they get at least two a week in with that problem. They could just go ahead and do a recall, but apparently that would be too easy
Christian1
3/6/2007 11:31:55 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: blackb13

It's probably this:

GROUP 35 Service Brakes : ABS Pump Noise (Update): 2006-07 Eclipse, 2007 Eclipse Spyder and Outlander : ABS System Conducts a self-check to ensure it is functioning properly the first time the vehicle reaches approx 2.5 mph. During the self check, a "clunking" noise will be heard from the right front of the engine compartment. The noise only occurs the first time the vehicle is driven after the engine is started. It will not reoccur until the engine is restarted. This noise is a normal operation of the ABS System. Do not attempt to repair this condition.

  Hummm.... VERY interesting!!  Sure is an odd thing that I seem to be the only one who hears it. Where did you get that info from, BlackB13??   The interesting thing is that although myball bearing joints were NOT the updated version, they never made any noise and the service manager from the dealership made some sharp and harsh turns with the vehicle. No clicks, just the first click when the car begins to move and then it's fine.   Have anyone else who owns a 2007 Outlander heard this noise? I guess you have to be paying attention to notice it.... If I am the only one, then how will I sleep at night??!  heh   But Blackb13, please, tell me where you found this info about the ABS testing itself so I may sleep at night! :) Thanks for the info.  
 
 
 
NOTE: How do you guys drive your Outlanders after the first 300 miles of break-in period? I have heard you should drive it hard, fast acceleration to keep the engine tunned or something... (should I start a new thread about this??)
biscuit
3/7/2007 12:08:07 AM
I can hear the ABS sound sometimes. To me it sounds as if someone tapped on the exhaust pipe with a screwdriver. It's just one short metallic click.
Christian1
3/7/2007 12:23:08 AM
That is the darned sound.
 
Anyone else hear this metal "clank" once when they first begin moving the car forward??
 
BlackB13 has some info on that. Hopefully he will drop a line as to the source of that clank. :)
soundcolor
3/7/2007 7:36:21 AM
I too hear the abs checking itself, its common on abs cars.
I dont hear any clanking noises, well not since mitsu fixed the bearings
Christian1
3/7/2007 12:56:55 PM
Is it really common to hear that "clank" sound when you first start to drive forward??   That is is the first time in my life I have ever heard such sound! And I have had a ton of cars with ABS barkes (5 to be exact).    No surprise I am concerned!   How sure are you guys that is teh ABS checking itself? (It is definitely not the ball bearing joints - it doesn't click when I turn and they have been just replaced anyway).
Manybrews
3/7/2007 6:54:20 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Christian1

Is it really common to hear that "clank" sound when you first start to drive forward??   That is is the first time in my life I have ever heard such sound! And I have had a ton of cars with ABS barkes (5 to be exact).    No surprise I am concerned!   How sure are you guys that is teh ABS checking itself? (It is definitely not the ball bearing joints - it doesn't click when I turn and they have been just replaced anyway).

thats what it is.
all cars with ABS do it for a self test to make sure the pump is working.
dont worry about it.
JMC
3/7/2007 7:12:05 PM
nuff said.........
blackb13
3/7/2007 10:49:00 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Christian1
That is the darned sound.

Anyone else hear this metal "clank" once when they first begin moving the car forward??

BlackB13 has some info on that. Hopefully he will drop a line as to the source of that clank. :)


You'd know if it was your wheel bearings.  They make a LOUD BANG when making a sharp turn (backing into your garage).  The problem you're experiencing sounds more like the ABS solenoid check.

BTW,  Manybrews is a MMNA tech, so if he says you're good, then you're good.
antlip
3/7/2007 11:20:45 PM
I have yet to hear my ABS check over the loud BANG!!!!! Be happy you can hear the ABS check.
Christian1
3/8/2007 1:54:50 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhh......... so ManyBrews is a MMNA tech!! Holy crap!! I didn't know! My bad.   I am sorry I had any doubts, Brew.   I am happy to know it's really nothing. I was concerned as heck and the Service manager @ my local Mitsu dealership (in Longwood) has no idea whatsoever what the problem is.   It is not very re-assuring to hear a guy with 11 years of experience hear the clang and then say... "damn, I wonder what could that be. First time I heard this on an Outlander".   You guys just saved me from a bad stomach ulcer from worrying.   Thanks!   I will try to post and help in any way I can.   Brew, do you have an Outlander? How about you Blackb13?
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