98_GstEclipse
12/17/2006 9:01:23 PM
Within the next week or 2 im gonna be purchasing a set of cam. I had my mind set on HKS 264/272 combo until I was speaking to the guy that is gonna be doing the work on my car and he said I should do the Crower combo instead. He said that there as good as HKS if not even better. I really havent heard anything about Crower so Im really not sure which ones to get. Which ones will I be more satisfied with. Also would a 272/272 combo be better. Im not to worried about the roughness in my idle
TheEngineer
12/18/2006 10:15:06 AM
I think either are fine. I believe crower is more known for their pistons. I havnt really heard much about the cams. But i dont see what the problem would be with using HKS
davidmitsusrock
12/18/2006 4:52:24 PM
ive heard good things about crower...hell the new HKS evo 8 uses crower parts....
paintballproam
12/18/2006 7:11:18 PM
man dont waste your money on hks, get comp cams. Thats what i did for my 6 bolt build. the 10100's are the same as hsk 264's and the 10200's are the same as hks 272's. Im not saying hks is bad, im just saying comp cams are 1/2 the cost
echostats
12/18/2006 9:18:05 PM
Crower is the **** but HKS is so tempting. I admit, I am swayed by the name brands. MAN! I'm like an Abercrombie kid for cars!
98_GstEclipse
12/18/2006 11:41:32 PM
Im still tryin to decide. Im not sure what to get. But the people who's gonna do work on my car said they have an account with crower or some vendor and they can get me the cam combo plus valves springs and lifters
silvercoupe97
12/19/2006 10:49:01 PM
If the shop can get you a deal for the cams, springs, and valves do it. There's nothing wrong with the Crower's set. It's never bad to replace the valves and springs
IMO, it's a either saying that you have Crower cams or or HKS cams...see what I'm saying? It's like what Echo said about the Abercrombie comment (thought that was funny btw, lol). You either have a brand name that everyone knows or a brand name that only a few know in our community.
Oh yeah, I've read recommendations of 264/272 combos over the 272/272 combo for street.
The 272's are lumpy and you lose the low end and if you're worried about emissions then don't get the 272 setup, while the 264's will keep the power band and hold till redline and are good with emissions.
*edited because I was backwards, lol.
98_GstEclipse
12/19/2006 11:43:23 PM
Yea Im not worried about emissions. But will my redline increase once thos cams are installed or will it stay at 7grand
93eclipsegsx
12/24/2006 2:23:55 PM
you will stay at 7200 or 7300. the stock limiter. you need to go to a shop and have the car tuned and they can raise the limiter. also if you havent got any cams, you can also try brian crower cams, its a different site than crower themselves but i think they might be cheaper. and silver sinve i have the 272/272 combo what would help me pass emissions b/c i want to drive my car on the streets. my car has passed emissions without the cat when it ran without to many mods.
silvercoupe97
12/24/2006 5:45:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: 93eclipsegsx
and silver sinve i have the 272/272 combo what would help me pass emissions b/c i want to drive my car on the streets
I'll look bro. I've gotten the impression that the 272/272 combo just wasn't too good of a choice in emission tested states.
98_GstEclipse
12/24/2006 11:22:28 PM
Im not worried about emissions. When I 1st got my car it had a bad o2 sensor and was spewing out smoke like crazy. I would sit at a light and I can see it come around the car to the front. Plus in Tampa all these ricers ride around dumping smoke all over the place
93eclipsegsx
12/24/2006 11:33:02 PM
well i am in a state that has them and im worried my car wont pass emissions
98_GstEclipse
12/25/2006 1:24:40 PM
What state do you live in. What do they do? Give you a ticket or sitation?
93eclipsegsx
12/25/2006 10:05:51 PM
i live in ohio, and if you fail they just make you go to a shop and get new parts on and see if youll pass but i think there is a limit on how much you spend and then you can be exempted or someting. i just dont want to change out cams just to pass emissions, it's not a big deal but i dont want to do it.
echostats
12/28/2006 10:29:30 AM
I guess I live in the cool part of Ohio. We don't have any type of tests we have to pass. I'm in Canton, where are you at 93eclipsegsx?
93eclipsegsx
12/28/2006 4:59:15 PM
im in cleveland, with living in cuyahoga county, its the only damn county that tests for emissions i think in the whole damn state. IM MOVING!!!
98_GstEclipse
12/28/2006 11:14:48 PM
That must suck to have emission test. I talked to this guy yesterday about crower and he said that 272/272 has a bad idle but not that bad. Have you heard the idle on 272/272 cam combo?
silvercoupe97
12/29/2006 1:45:04 AM
If you can imagine a sine wave that goes up and down
that's how a 272/272 combo sounds.
I've heard a few of them in vids and it does sound mean or retarded...depending on which car crowds you hang with. This is at idle btw, with any gas at all, it sounds normal, respectively.
98_GstEclipse
12/29/2006 11:02:11 AM
I like the way cams sound. It makes the car sound mean. Is there a big performance difference between 262/272 combos and the 272/272 combo