Daylight Running Lights (DRL) - Page 2

A quick explaination is that the DRLs are MANDATORY in some coutries - e.g. Canada, and perhaps at least in some states in the US. I think it's no brainer, if the DRL are MANDATORY in few US states, ANY manufacture would make them standard in ALL their cars for sale in that country. 

Sorry, a quick search shows that the DRLs are not mandatory in the US. They are in Canda though.
 

Maybe it's just me..but if the ride has DRLs I figure just leave them alone.

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ORIGINAL: Christian1

Well, I will certainly "bitch" about this to Mitsu. They make one of the car's most important safety features (The ASC) "optional", to which you can turn it off, why not make DRL optional too.   Let's hope the bult lasts at least 3 years. You know, I will be quite pissed if the damn bult busts when I am in a cross-country trip and have to get pulled over by every dickhead cop in every city and county I cross over because a light bulb busted out.  

 
Dude you realy need to talk to someone about your anger management issues - seriously you get so worked up about things that HAVEN'T even happened yet - sometimes the glass IS half full -try it you might like it!

Maybe you should just sell the car and save yourself some pain (self-induced).

First, let me say that I like my DRLs. It's nice not having to turn on my mains at dusk and dawn, when the sun is low and some headlight illumination is a big safety improvement. I can't tell you how many times I see these idiots without any lights on because they think they can see fine with the daylight they have. Lights are not only for you to see, but for others to see you.
OK, enough of that rant.
However, I see Christian's point of view. Some of us are safety conscious and know when we need to turn on our lights. We don't need the femputer telling us when and how to do it. DRLs improve safety in some situations, not all, yet it's on all the time during they day, even when the sun is in the middle of the sky. For some of us who care and slave over the cars we love, having a constant, "unneeded" load on the electrical system is a nagging little thing that's just annoying.
As for a workaround, if you took out the fuse and that didn't work, then you may have taken out the wrong fuse (I'm assuming you don't have the HIDs).
You also have the option of the relay. However, I'm still on the lookout for the service manual, so I can't help with the relay location.

The electrical load for 2 small lights is next to nothing. Buy an optima battery if your worried about load on your car.

I like the DRL as a safety feature.  Two thumbs up for the Canadians for insisting that their cars have it.

However, if there is a concern that DRL will cause headlights to wear out sooner, than those who have that concern should have a replacement (spare) headlight in their vehicle.  (Just like all cars have a spare tire.)

the lifetime of the bulb MAY decrease by 3 percent.
not a big deal.  most people can afford a new bulb, so that argument is silly.

I have a question, If I want to get the fog lights added as an accessorie, will they be operated from the turn signal stick or will it be a stand alone switch? also do you know if they can be operated along with the high beams. I know when it comes with fogs from the factory the switch is located on the stick and they dont work with high beams, I was wondering if this would be the same if I got them as an add on later?

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ORIGINAL: OTO27

I have a question, If I want to get the fog lights added as an accessorie, will they be operated from the turn signal stick or will it be a stand alone switch? also do you know if they can be operated along with the high beams. I know when it comes with fogs from the factory the switch is located on the stick and they dont work with high beams, I was wondering if this would be the same if I got them as an add on later?

this has been talked about many times here.
you cannot add fog lights if you have the HID headlights.
and no foglights can legally be used with high-beams, so they shut off automatically.

Next question, are the DRLs in XLS with HIDs the same as the fog lights in the LS? Because from what I understand the DRLs are basically fog lights that functions as DRLs as well.

the cars with standard headlights have foglights you can control.
the cars with HID lights have those foglights turned into non-controllable DRLs.

Sorry for not being clear with the question. What I actually meant was, are the bulbs in the foglights for XLS with HIDs the same for the foglights in LS? I want to know if there is a physical difference in the bulb brightness and usability of DRLs as compared to standard foglights in the LS. Although I presume they are the same, I could be wrong.

FYI - on the non-HID Outlander (at least the Canadian models), the fog lights are 55w H11's.

We need a full bulb list!

Found the answer from the manual just now. DRLs are only 27W 1156(LL) type, so they are different indeed.

I was poking my head around the engine bay yesterday and seen sylivia (spelling) bulbs I  think for high beams. I know thats off topic but maybe you could look for the DLR lights and see if the brand of what not is on them.

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ORIGINAL: OTO27

I have a question, If I want to get the fog lights added as an accessorie, will they be operated from the turn signal stick or will it be a stand alone switch? also do you know if they can be operated along with the high beams. I know when it comes with fogs from the factory the switch is located on the stick and they dont work with high beams, I was wondering if this would be the same if I got them as an add on later?

 
Does anyone know the answer to OTO27's question? I have exaclly the same question.
The question applies to an ES/LS standard models with the fog lights installed as an accessory. Simple as that (no HID involved).

A full bulb list would be great...I plan to change everything I can....

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ORIGINAL: OTO27

I have a question, If I want to get the fog lights added as an accessorie, will they be operated from the turn signal stick or will it be a stand alone switch? also do you know if they can be operated along with the high beams. I know when it comes with fogs from the factory the switch is located on the stick and they dont work with high beams, I was wondering if this would be the same if I got them as an add on later?

MANYBREWS:
this has been talked about many times here.
you cannot add fog lights if you have the HID headlights.
and no foglights can legally be used with high-beams, so they shut off automatically.

MANYBREWS's reply DOES NOT answer the first question:
"If I want to get the fog lights added as an accessorie, will they be operated from the turn signal stick or will it be a stand alone switch"?
Most likely, once the fog lights are installed on the LS, they would operate the same way as on the XLS WITHOUT HID - they will turn off when the high beam turns on.
 

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ORIGINAL: dodo2

MANYBREWS's reply DOES NOT answer the first question:
"If I want to get the fog lights added as an accessorie, will they be operated from the turn signal stick or will it be a stand alone switch"?
Most likely, once the fog lights are installed on the LS, they would operate the same way as on the XLS WITHOUT HID - they will turn off when the high beam turns on.

Legal wise it DOES answer the question. Other than that...yes, you can have fogs put in with a switch to make them work.

LOL !!! We are playing comprehension games here.
 
The question is if anyone knows (not assume or guess), if the Mitsu OEM Fog Lights Kit, available for 07 Outlander LS model, involves left stalk replacement with one similar with the one on the standard XLS model, which has the fog lights switch integrated, or does it come with a separate switch for the fog lights?
This is what OTO27 and I would like to find out.

I just found out that the left stalk on the steering column on the LS, does not have the fog lights switch. Could someone having an LS confirm (I just called a dealership and asked, but it wouldn't hurt to confirm)?
Two possible options for installing the OEM fog lights kit on the LS:
1. Have a switch installed on the left side of the steering column, by the ASC switch.
2. Have a new stalk (same as the one on the XLS) installed as part of the OEM fog lights kit.
Does anyone know for sure which one it is?
 

I cant believe we have 5 pages of DRL tech and ligiht bulb tech.