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look at a car with 420 HP take off with 20" low profiles, and watch the same car with 15"s @420 hp with bigger tires, DING DING the 5's would have smoked the low pros no problem (experiment wiht a freind monte carlo)

You mean you KNEW that.
 
So i right dick head.

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ORIGINAL: Sebba

You are a ****ing moron....truely

Yep. But you sound like more of one saying more rubber less rim is better for stability.

What happens whey you take a turn with alot of rubber and small rim? The out side tires flex and mush making you lean to the side like soft shocks working like body roll.  Less tire you get almost no flex or mush.

Are you seriously that retarded?  come on now.  tell me something,  Why do ALL time attack Evos run 16 or 17 inch rims with fat ass sidwalls and on a 265 width or bigger if you dont want more rubber then why do they run more rubber? 
 
You seriously are way off on every aspect of cars imaginable.  You think the exact opposite of everything and yet you argue.

Brains, he lacks em.

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ORIGINAL: Sebba

You are a ****ing moron....truely

Yep. But you sound like more of one saying more rubber less rim is better for stability.

What happens whey you take a turn with alot of rubber and small rim? The out side tires flex and mush making you lean to the side like soft shocks working like body roll.  Less tire you get almost no flex or mush.

Are you seriously that retarded?  come on now.  tell me something,  Why do ALL time attack Evos run 16 or 17 inch rims with fat ass sidwalls and on a 265 width or bigger if you dont want more rubber then why do they run more rubber? 

You seriously are way off on every aspect of cars imaginable.  You think the exact opposite of everything and yet you argue.

 
What i said is true. I never said wide tires are bad and i never said tall side walls are bad. What i said is that the less side wall the more stable the car is in the turns from less tire flex.

You just contridicted yourself on that way to go,  genius
 
you have no freaking clue, no matter how much you claim or think you do, you are just completely lost in space my friend.   Im done with this one because you obiously lack common sence and common knowledge.

Well its called side wall flex and it exhists.

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ORIGINAL: 5star

Well its called side wall flex and it exhists.

yea its called having the rubber on the ground.
 
I cant belive you think you right about this one.   Like seb saind before why do all F1 cars run tiny rim and fat tires if you were right wouldnt they want biger rims and lo pros?  why is that Evo on 2 wheels I posted have 17 in rims with a fat sideway and a 275 tire under neath it?  last I check that was one of our contries best handling Evos yet he could be using 19 inch rims with smaller tires.  But for some reason these guys at RRE who have been building DSM and EVO for almost 20years much not know that they should use bigger rims I guess.
 
Wow RRE guys are so stupid right?  What about AMS and buschur racing.  there Evos are on a similar setup with EVEN bigger tires.  Guess they have no clue either.

I am right. I know more rubber is better for traction and better for racing "car". The reason they dont use tires with almost no side wall is because they dont have to wory about turning to fast and going up on 2 wheels.  If some one was going to be taking a turn at a gazillion miles per hour then less rubber would be better by keeping it more stable as in less tippy. 

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f21853b6afdf645240dfdbe542c8ed9d&t=183106

yknow that a diesel TRUCK not an evo? the less flex the worse it is for traction. end of story

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ORIGINAL: jpmontero98

yknow that a diesel TRUCK not an evo? the less flex the worse it is for traction. end of story

 
Sindrifical force or how ever its spelled. When you turn the weight is moving to the out side tires and the inside tires are gettin lighter. If your out side tires flex your car will lean making you more likley to over turn.  
 
 

dont forget the concept of center of gravity, nascars are low with tires that that have alot of sidewall, when they turn at 60MPH do they flip? no, because they have a low center of gravity, not......with less flex the car would slide, now add somthing like an SUV, with tires that have alot of side wall flex, it would tip....high center of gravity, low pros would make it slide a bit more but it would STILL tip

When is this madness going to end, 5start just stop!

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ORIGINAL: jpmontero98

dont forget the concept of center of gravity, nascars are low with tires that that have alot of sidewall, when they turn at 60MPH do they flip? no, because they have a low center of gravity, not......with less flex the car would slide, now add somthing like an SUV, with tires that have alot of side wall flex, it would tip....high center of gravity, low pros would make it slide a bit more but it would STILL tip

 
Yeah but with less side wall it would be harder for it to 2 wheel. When your tires flex it starts the motion of going up on 2 wheels making it easier to 2 wheel. Kind of like running round bubble tires.  I no this crap for a fact I freakin race quad and you run low and wide and the corners are a big thing if you cant corner fast than you cant win.

wowww dude, just.. wow

5star, if you have to get your handling information from a diesel truck forum  your lookin in the wrong place bud.

do yourself a favor and let this one go. as much as you think you are right, you aren't. give it up

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dont forget the concept of center of gravity, nascars are low with tires that that have alot of sidewall, when they turn at 60MPH do they flip? no, because they have a low center of gravity, not......with less flex the car would slide, now add somthing like an SUV, with tires that have alot of side wall flex, it would tip....high center of gravity, low pros would make it slide a bit more but it would STILL tip

Yeah but with less side wall it would be harder for it to 2 wheel. When your tires flex it starts the motion of going up on 2 wheels making it easier to 2 wheel. Kind of like running round bubble tires.  I no this crap for a fact I freakin race quad and you run low and wide and the corners are a big thing if you cant corner fast than you cant win.

dude, low pro tires, all they are gonna do is slip and slide around bends. you want the thick sidewall so your tires grip the road. flipping over may be a hazard for your quads or deisel trucks, but its not so much for evo's and dsm's. if you want to gain time around corners, which would you rather do? go with tires that stick to the road, or tires that skid?

Just let him try it for himself and wreck the damn riced out car.

...wow... Ive flipped a few cars in my life... if youre gonna **** up and flip no tire in the world is gonna help you...