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bud660r
12/28/2006 11:42:26 AM
well when i got my new intake all of the hses and stuff that were conected to the stock air box are all just hanging there now, i have nothing goint to my header from the airbox any more, so how do i do an EGR block off ?
VR4GARY
12/28/2006 11:45:49 AM
Go to the 3SX website.
bud660r
12/28/2006 12:14:32 PM
and i am looking for?
paintballproam
12/28/2006 4:02:24 PM
just buy a block off plate off SBR or extreme psi or something
silvercoupe97
12/29/2006 1:56:57 AM
Yup, a block off plate and plugs for the hg nipples on the TB and the mid sized one that goes to the intake pipe.  I might suggest a gasket for the blockoff plate too, I had a tiny leak from my blockoff plate and I used an old piece of tin to sub as a gasket...it's still working btw.  Even an old or new, lol, soda can will work (assuming you do know that I mean to cut it to shape).
Might I suggest FFWD Connection

They have a copper plate for just this reason
quote:

The copper alloy will embed with the mating surfaces and insure a tight seal...better than a stainless or aluminum plate.

I have an aluminum one btw , hence my suggestion.

Hey VR4GARY, bud660r has an Eclipse...I'm just saying 
Although this middle one looks like ours.
bud660r
12/29/2006 11:46:29 AM
thanks alot for the clear answer silvercoupe!
 
it just a plate right nothing special about it? if so i could just make one out of alum "i work at a machine shop" we have alot of aluminum layin around!
silvercoupe97
12/29/2006 6:49:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: bud660r

thanks alot for the clear answer silvercoupe!

it just a plate right nothing special about it? if so i could just make one out of alum "i work at a machine shop" we have alot of aluminum layin around!
Yup, any will work, just make sure that it's flat and you're good to go. 
bud660r
12/31/2006 12:34:51 PM
is there any benifits to doing the egr block off? or is it just to get rid of all that crap from the stock intake!
silvercoupe97
12/31/2006 7:39:49 PM
..that and a cleaner manifold+ and less gas milage (differs from car to car).  I've got a nice big opening where my battery and EGR used to be
paintballproam
1/1/2007 9:08:49 PM
How much worse gas mialage?
bud660r
1/3/2007 7:52:21 PM
does any one have a accual size pic of the egr plate! so i can trace it out and cut it with out dissmantaling my car
 
thanks for all the help! ya how bad of gass milage!
"not like it really matter's, it will still get better milage than a V8" lol
paintballproam
1/3/2007 8:14:29 PM
Yea im gonna make my own. Lucky me, new hampshire tests emmissions on cars 1996 and newer.....im 1995.lol  as long as i stay over 20mpg im happy
bud660r
1/3/2007 9:05:46 PM
nice!
paintballproam
1/4/2007 5:16:40 PM
if i had a template, like with measurements, i could get some made out of sheet type aluminum tomorrow for like $1 each.
silvercoupe97
1/4/2007 6:07:04 PM
I'm not sure on the actual milage, but mine went down about 20miles per full tank.

paintballproam
1/4/2007 6:48:16 PM
Thats about 1.5mpg. So no big deal really
bud660r
1/4/2007 7:22:28 PM
ya i am going to make my own to i have some 1/2 inch maybe a little thiner aluminum! so it will be nice and thick and durable!
 
"thats what she said to me at least" lol
silvercoupe97
1/5/2007 3:13:19 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: paintballproam

Thats about 1.5mpg. So no big deal really
It is when you can't help but boost to every light, lol.  Your milage shouldn't drop to the point where you would want it back on anyway.
bud660r
1/5/2007 1:36:10 PM
does one of the block of plates bolt to the block it's self, i was just looking at it last night and was not sure if i remove all of the metal tubing thats there!
echostats
1/6/2007 11:29:47 AM
Yea, buying a block off plate is pretty retarded.
bud660r
1/6/2007 12:49:00 PM
why is it retarded
Manybrews
1/6/2007 2:35:51 PM
its retarded because
1)it raises combustion temps, thereby causing pinging
2)you loose milage
3)you increase emissions.


basically, you gain absolutly NOTHING by eliminating it.  Its not functioning at idle or WOT anyway, so the excuse people use about "gaining power" is utter nonsense.
echostats
1/6/2007 2:48:51 PM
Agreed. You gain nothing AND it's so easy to make your own. Buying one is retarded as well as USING one.
bud660r
1/6/2007 6:28:00 PM
i am not looking to gain power i just want to lose all of the **** thats just hanging under my intake!
silvercoupe97
1/7/2007 3:57:34 AM
Correct, removing the EGR will do what you stated Manybrews.
What does happen when you remove it is, you remove any chance of vacuum leaks, you stop recirculating carbon, and that's one less thing to fail in a DSM.
I agree that it doesn't add HP, I never believed that either.  What does that do for HP?  You don't add HP, you only regain what was already there when you remove the EGR and Seafoam your motor.  Raising engine temps, sure, but there are other things that will help lower it if you're really that concerned with it, but your engine temps don't go up enough to worry about melting things or knocking.  Ping, is something you say about N/A cars, knock is what you mean I believe, Manybrews.  That can be countered also, I've got alky injection on the boards as my next mod.  That will help lower knock and raise my octane (that in turn will lower knock even more, which I don't have anyway).  Gas milage?  If I was that worried about it, I'd have a Toyota hybrid and not a 50-75lbs heavier than a GSX Avenger with GSX parts.  Most DSM owners feel the same way, if they didn't, they would be buying bigger injectors and turbos, IMO.

If any of you get a chance, take the EGR valve off and scrape it with a piece of wood, a stick.  Measure how many MM of carbon you just scraped off, now imagine that throughout the EGR's route.  How much does a new EGR system cost?  What does that do for HP?  You don't add HP, you only regain what was already there when you remove the EGR and Seafoam your motor.

This thing gets really clogged up, it's about $88.

..but anyway, there's counters to both sides.

Here's some good reading about the EGR system and where the myths were first told.
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov97/gas.htm
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