EVOVIII vs. STi the age old question

I guess it really isn't an age old question and besides that there is another question about the Mitsu Company...

Hey all,
I'm in the market for a new car and the ones that are impressing me right now are the Evo VIII, the STi, and the VW R32 (if i can find one). Obviously i'm looking for something around 30-35k new or last years model that hasn't been sold which is again almost impossible to find with these cars. So i'm just curious if anyone has driven two or more of these cars and what their opinons are.

I would love to hear opinons on:
Any problems people have or have heard of with the cars
Performance/handling, etc.
Is it a good daily driver
How easy is it to work on yourself
Quality of the car, inside and out.
Or anything else that anyone wants to talk about.

Thanks to everyone that replies.

I know this may seem very redudant because people are always asking this question...but i'll also be modifying the car and want to know what is available fo the EvoVIII and how expensive is it? And do you know about the STi..?

VERY IMPORTANT....is Mitsubishi going out of business, and can I plan on actually using the warrenty or will the company be gone before the warrenty is?

Well, this is probably the lames response i have ever had at any forum....you guys won't even back up your Mitsu...weak...thanks everyone for looking but not responding...good day to you

well all i can say is that to spend 30 grand on a 14s car is stupid. you can buy a awd talon or eclipse, for between 1,500 to 8,000 depends on 1g or 2g then put about 2,500 into it and run 12s. you would have only spent betwee 4,000 to 10,000. and if you plan on modding the car the warrenty really doesnt matter because you will void it.

I have a 94 evo 3 and it has 130000 kilometers which is about 80000 miles and I am absolutly 100% behind mitsu for not only there reliability and performance of there cars but I think in general if you compare states the sti got nothing to the evo series. I just think the evo's are much classier well they are in sydney. What I am saying is I am fully happy with my car as a mitsu driver. If that helps at all and 96awd got a point if you going to modify warrenty wont be worth the paper its writen on.

I hope that is of any help its really just an opinion for a happy mitsu driver

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ORIGINAL: lovinthaboost

Well, this is probably the lames response i have ever had at any forum....you guys won't even back up your Mitsu...weak...thanks everyone for looking but not responding...good day to you

Harsh...and only one day too. I just picked up my Outlander on 12/23 and this is my first visit to the Lancer forum (the RalliArts have the same engine as me).
MotorTrend tested the Evo vs. the STi with resulting equality. Everything was within a tenth of each other. They said one was more a driver's car and the other was a little more raw for the "experienced" driver. I forget which tho.

As for Mitsu, they wouldn't drop their killer warranty so Dailmer said "you drop it or you're on your own". Guess what. Mitsu won't go under. They may become like Subaru or may even be pulled from the US, or picked up by another maker but still hold the Mitsu name. In any case, they have to make good on all waranties offered by law. Unfortunately, people react to here-say. Gas prices fluctuate on rumors, the stock market will rise or fall on a whim, and Mitsu may take a hit due to plain fear. Too bad people don't see things for what they are.

Mitsubishi worldwide is under new management w/ western influencing. Even here at my store, we're getting alot of incentives to sell new Mitsu's. Why would Mitsubishi's affiliates lend us 5 billion dollars if they thought the company was going under or out of business in America? Just wait until the '06 Eclipse are released here. They truely are awesome. And, AND Cameron is absolutely correct, Mitsu will NOT lower their warranties. Mitsubishi has set the bar with it's warranty and all the other car manufacturing companies will have to just bite the bullet on that one :) . Form my perspective, alot of Mitsu owners don't even own their car for the full length of the warranty because they trade it in for a newer model, which I hope alot of 3G eclipse owners do! lovinthaboost, you should allow some time for people to respond, some people do work, and alot of people don't just stare at the screen on a forum for a response. Give it some time. ANYWAYS, I truely feel that mitsu, with all it's own breakthroughs in automotive technologies, is about to sky rocket in commercial business.

On another note. The new Eclipse's are gonna be AWESOME. Even the lame Automatic Transmission is gonna be a 5 speed with the Sportronic shifter. Manual Transmission is a six speed. It'll have 261 HP and 260 Torque on a 3.8L V6 MIVEC engine with a 650 Watt Fosgate MP3 Stereo w/ a 10" Subwoofer. And that's stock. It's a beast. Imagine adding turbo, hahaha. I think that it'll only weigh out at around 2700 lbs. That ain't no grocery getter.

evo>sti Always was, always will be.

96awd Date 1/8/2005 11:51:46 PM
well all i can say is that to spend 30 grand on a 14s car is stupid. you can buy a awd talon or eclipse, for between 1,500 to 8,000 depends on 1g or 2g then put about 2,500 into it and run 12s. you would have only spent betwee 4,000 to 10,000. and if you plan on modding the car the warrenty really doesnt matter because you will void it.

WHAT???? first off evos and sti's run low 13's, not 14's, second have you ever thought about the fact that these cars were not meant for drag racing?? not everyone lives their life a quarter mile at a time, you could buy an old ass muscle car for cheaper than an eclipse an murder them too at the drag strip.
anyways, i have test driven both the evo and the sti. i have always loved the evo and never thought i would want an sti over one but after driving both i now do. the sti is crazy fast, has shorter gearing than the evo, noticable difference in power, and overall was just more fun to drive. i also like the way it looks more and the inside is nicer, not to mention its a 6 speed. theres almost no turbo lag, and solid power to redline, while the evo felt like its top end was a little weak, kinda like a stock dsm feels. the evo steering did feel a little more tight, but almost too tight, like it shouldnt ever drive a strait road because it jus wants to head up into the mountains. but thats jus my opinion. every car magazine has compared these cars at least 5 times each, and you need to read up on them and then go test both and decide for yourself because they are so similar it boils down to personal preference.

yes, i agree evo all the way.

Before I bought my EVO VI I also tried out a 2.5 litre WRX STI. The drive test happened on the very same place at the very same time. Here's what I found. The wrx felt like a front wheel driven car in every corned. In order to make it drift into the corners I had to pull the hand brake every time. It was very frustrating, because every time I had to remove my hands from the steering wheel. In the EVO all I had to do is to push the gas a bit harder or kick the clutch while accelerating in the begining of the turn. The evo was very easy to handle, the WRX was a bit harder. The suspension was also better in the evo. Inside is much much more beautiful I know that the TME is a special version but still. Those recaros with the embroidery.... Im loving it. On the mechanic side the WRX has its intercooler on the top of the engine. What a stupid thing. The heat of the engine goes right through the intercooler, making it even hotter. The EVO has its cooler right in its front with a nice opening on the bumper.

So after the test ride we did a comparism on the highway, we started in 3rd gear, and accelerated right up to 230 km/h. The wrx is 300 ps, the EVO is only 280 (1 bar pressure) but the EVO had a modded air intake and sport exhaust system. So lets suppose that these add another 20 HP to the EVO so the contest was fair enough. And guess what happened? The EVO beaten the WRX with 50 meters, which is a lot I guess. What is the reason? The weight!!! The EVO is less by 150 kilos at least. This shows on the cornering, braking, accelerating ability.

So, ladies and gents, as you might have guessed I bought the EVO. And Im in heaven since that day. This car is absolutely fantastic.

Buy the EVO.

you cant get an evo VI in the US, and the evo VIII is VERY noticably slower than the STI

Here in Hungary I know two EVO 6 for sale. One of them is a real must have since the owner only used it at every second week. It only has 25,000 kms, and this is a TM edition also. The price is 46.000 USD. Why cant you buy EVO 6 in the US???

well mitsu has never really felt the need to start importing the evo to the US until subaru brought the wrx over, so now they are rivals for the best rally car. i ahve always wanted an evo and the evo III and evo VI have seemed to be the best evos based on magazine reviews. but finally when the evo came to the us they were already on the evo VIII and for the US it is WAY tuned down compared to the euro and japan versions. here its only 271 hp, dynoed its low 200's and we have 91 octane in cali so it detonates like crazy and retards the timing. when i test drove it comparing to the sti it was very slow, almost disapointing. i would love to have an evo VI, but the sti jus felt like a much better car than the evo VIII to me.

Ok I see your point now. Yeah I've go to agree with you that the EVO 7,8 are just living in the shadow of the earlier great EVO-s like the 6, and the 91 octane fuel just makes everything worst. The new terrain adjustment system in the all wheel drive train sometimes just let you down, moreover the whole drive train tends to be much weaker than that in the EVO 6. Maybe the EVO X! I've read the specs and it is going be a real road monster again. Who knows maybe the three diamonds will rule on the roads again...

Here in Europe we got 100 octane fuel at almost every country (I guess except Italy), so pumping up the compression and/or the turbo is not a problem. But then I wonder how some fellows overthere made well over 1,000 BHP toyota supras.... I gues its not related to this topic anyway.