Gracenote database / ripping audio CD's

Hi everyone, just purchased an 2008 Dark grey Outlander XLS w/ Nav and the works.  This vehicle is mint, absolutely wicked, but I am a bit disappointed with the Music server and the audio CD ripping function.
 
I have ensured that all of my music is properly tagged using both Winamp (which uses gracenote online) and Windows media player, yet it seems that only some of my CD's are recoginized for CD text and others are not.
 
The dealer has an update CD for me (Nav/Gracenote), has anyone else in Canada applied this?  Does anyone have suggestions for burning CD's so that the music server will recognize the ID3 tags????
 
Thanks
 
J

Make sure the songs are titled correctly when putting them onto your burning program.

I have confirmed that and even gone to great length's to ensure each song is titled properly.
Any other idea's? (that was a pretty generic answer)

What I meant is if your using lets say NERO and you put a song onto there to burn, if you go to properties you can change the title that is displayed and artist.

As antlip said, you HAVE TO check so, to be sure is properly set as CD Text.






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Here's a similar question.  If you put a store bought CD into the MMCS shouldn't the song titles and such be downloaded?  The wife loaded the "Daughtry" CD, but there's no song titles found.  It only lists "unknown" artist/title.
 
I can understand if you put a homeade CD into it the info may not transfer, but with new CD's i would think they would all be formatted for that now.

I've had several store bought CD's not come up. Not sure what the method to madness is. 

i have only had one CD have the songs come up and it was a burn CD that i got off the street. Any other one i uploaded came up with no titles. You can always add the titles your self thats what i did

I wonder if the problem is the CD data or the MMCS?
 
When i put the CD into my home computer the download software automatically shows the song titles/length/etc.  I can't understand why the Mitsu Music Server wouldn't be able to do the same.

The issue is with the Gracenote database... its clearly WAY out of date as I put in a store bought Steve Earle CD (copperhead road) and it didn't find the text for that.  Supposidly there is a UPDATE Nav/Gracenote CD available at my dealership... I am still trying to get a price from them but hopefully this will fix it.  It sucks having to type all of these songs in.

The GraceNote Database is updated from time to time by Mitsubishi but :

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cf http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/download/mmcs/e/down_mmcs_01.html

This update data contains information on music CDs released during specific periods and is frequently searched by Japanese users on the Gracenote website; it does not contain all music information for all regions. Consequently, music information for some CDs may not exist in the data

So, if the CD is new and is not CD Text, or is not so new but was not very popular among the japanese users, you may not find it in the database... :(
japan 1 - world 0

That's a rip off.  I guess if you want to listen to and memorize the song titles of William Hung's Greatest hits your aces, but for anything else we're screwed.

So I can do this on my own 08 with no consquences?  Will it all be in japanese?  Has anyone tried this yet on a 08 and noticed a difference?  Will my warranty cover it if it pooches?

Just spoke with Southside Mitusbishi in Edmonton and they are trying to figure out why there is even a charge associated with this disc, it should be covered under the warranty, they are fighting with Mitsubishi Canada and I am not getting mine updated until there is some sort of resolution.  I bought my 08 XLS 2 weeks ago, the update has been out for 1 month, so my vehicle should have been updated.

I think you're confusing two different things.  One is the gracenote update (for music cd titles), which is free of charge (and available in english!); you just download the files from the link posted earlier and burn to a CD.  The other is the navigation map data update, which is definately not free.

Regarding the gracenote update, I did try loading the japanese update on my system when it was first released (since it was out before the english update) and my system didn't even recognize the update disc.  Once the english update came out, I tried again and it updated just fine and recognized a few new CDs.

Brian360,
You are talking about this link, right http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/download/mmcs/e/down_mmcs_01.html 
 
So i just copy the files to a CD and put in the MMCS...and it loads itself?  Or will the MMCS prompt you to do something more?
 
Thanx

If the update was released prior to me purchasing the vehicle (ie.. if the Nav update was released in Feb and I drove the XLS off the lot on March 20th) then they should have updated my navagation system free of charge.  That's called being fair, why the hell should I have to pay for an update the moment a new car is driven off the lot, especially if the update is older than the day I bought the car.

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ORIGINAL: Cuffy

Brian360,
You are talking about this link, right http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/download/mmcs/e/down_mmcs_01.html 

So i just copy the files to a CD and put in the MMCS...and it loads itself?  Or will the MMCS prompt you to do something more?

Thanx

Yes, just follow the directions on that website.  There are three files you burn on to a CD-R.  Then a few seconds after you insert the CD into the MMCS unit, press "MODE" and press "CDDB Update" in the lower-left corner.  After a few minutes the update will be complete and you can eject the disc.

Note that the system will still not recognize any cds made after the date of the update (In this case, March 2007 -- we should be due for a new update any time now).

To update the track titles of a CD that might not have been recognized before the update, start the Music Server, touch "^", go to Function Settings, Title Edit, Playlist, select an untitled CD, and somewhere there should be a CDDB button to scan for titles again.

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ORIGINAL: jnetter

If the update was released prior to me purchasing the vehicle (ie.. if the Nav update was released in Feb and I drove the XLS off the lot on March 20th) then they should have updated my navagation system free of charge.  That's called being fair, why the hell should I have to pay for an update the moment a new car is driven off the lot, especially if the update is older than the day I bought the car.

Check when your car was built. It could have been built in 07, though you purchased it in 08. I know for a fact dealers will not update your Nav maps by default because they sell the CD updates, and leave you with whatever the factory version your car was shipped with. But if you knew there's a new map update before you got your vehicle, you could have asked them to throw in the updates as part of your purchase bargain.

This is such BS, map updates or any updates for any electronics (minus sirius) should be included as part of the warranty package.
I guess its time to write Mitsubishi and complain, I feel ripped off.

I totally agree !  If you bought a laptop, Ipod in 08, but it was built in 07, almost always, you can download updates from the manufacturer for free! such as drivers, firmware to bring your box up-to-date. Why wouldn’t the Nav system be the same?

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ORIGINAL: Outie08

I totally agree !  If you bought a laptop, Ipod in 08, but it was built in 07, almost always, you can download updates from the manufacturer for free! such as drivers, firmware to bring your box up-to-date. Why wouldn’t the Nav system be the same?

Think antivirus signature files, now why does McAfee, Symantec, etc charge a subscription fee? Map data which Mitsubishi buys from Navteq cost money, that's why they charge customers for it.

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ORIGINAL: jnetter

This is such BS, map updates or any updates for any electronics (minus sirius) should be included as part of the warranty package.
I guess its time to write Mitsubishi and complain, I feel ripped off.

I feel for you, for I too have the MMCS, and I agree with you about updates being part of warranty, even at least a one time update for the 5 year new car warranty. And I did write to Mitsubishi about it and they refer me to my dealer with the part number for the map update disc. Bummer.

Why couldn't the Nav update be more like AVG and not McAfee,Symantec?  Wishful thinking..Deep down, I agree with you, nothing is truely free