HELP FAST CAR WONT START AFTER INSTALL!!!
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HELP FAST CAR WONT START AFTER INSTALL!!!
mountaindewguy
11/14/2006 7:16:05 PM
i go to work in 4 hours!!! i installed the injen short ram, now the car wont start! 01 v6 eclipse.
i forgot to unplug the MAS before i installed it (i did disconnect the battery cable) so after words i disconnected the battery and the sensor, reconnected the battery and put the plug back in and still no start. so i completely disconnected the battery and the MAS. could it be that i have to plug in the MAS before reconnecting the battery? HELP FAST!
silvercoupe97
11/14/2006 7:20:13 PM
Did you plug the MAF back in? Or MAS, whatever you have that's connected to the intake.
Ooops, read too fast, lol.
silvercoupe97
11/14/2006 7:22:02 PM
Try disconnecting the battery and press then press the brakes and hold it for about 15 seconds. Plug the power back up and try to start it again.
Sanguinius
11/14/2006 7:25:11 PM
Yeah when you disconnect the battery you have to kill residual juice in the circuits. That's why it takes at LEAST 15 minutes if you're not messing with stuff for it to register to reset.
mountaindewguy
11/14/2006 9:00:28 PM
nothing, still wont start. it turns over, but it doesn't actually start.
silvercoupe97
11/14/2006 9:07:09 PM
Did you put all the vacuum lines back the way they were? Check your fuses and fusible links in the engine bay fusebox.
mountaindewguy
11/14/2006 9:12:03 PM
everything is fine, and the only vacuum line i touched was the one connecting to the intake piping.
damn i'm lost.
silvercoupe97
11/14/2006 9:18:06 PM
Have you tried to reinstall the stock airbox? I doubt that it'll do anything but it won't hurt to try.
mountaindewguy
11/14/2006 9:25:29 PM
i'll have to wait till tomorrow for that, any other ideas>?
mountaindewguy
11/14/2006 10:26:11 PM
ok i tried starting it, and when it chugged slightly i nailed the gas and held it, but the only thing tht happened is smoke came out the exhaust some, and the INSTANT i let go of the gas it died....?????
silvercoupe97
11/14/2006 11:09:22 PM
Ok, so you've checked your fuses, fusible links, tap your relays in the fuse box (do you have any on the firewall?), check your distributor cap and make sure you didn't accidentally pop one off.
You're not getting spark, that's what I see from what I'm reading.
mountaindewguy
11/14/2006 11:12:54 PM
couldi t be because i unhooked the MAS?
silvercoupe97
11/14/2006 11:22:59 PM
I doubt it, if that was the case my car would never start. I take my MAF off a lot.
I would just double check your work area. It has to be something accidentally pulled, pryed, or just knock off. Isn't your distributor cap nearby? Like to the left of the battery? I know your V6 is a 6g72 mine was a 6g73, your setup shouldn't be much different than what I had. Did you touch the battery post with the pipe?
mountaindewguy
11/15/2006 6:14:39 AM
i just called my buddy that was there when i put it on. he is the actual one that took the MAF off.... he told me that when i went inside to take a piss he dropped it twice, he said it didn't hit very hard, but he still dropped it.
how sensitive are those in the case of getting dropped? am i alright, or should i make him buy me one then kill him?
silvercoupe97
11/15/2006 6:18:47 AM
Take the maf out and check the resistor(s) or diode(s) (I forget which they are) and make sure that they are still connected and that they don't have a broken wire on either end.
Reason number one why I don't like other's to touch my car, lol. No one cares more for you car than you do.
silvercoupe97
11/15/2006 6:19:52 AM
I wouldn't kill him, just kick him in the junk after he buys you one, lol.
Oh yeah, they are if they are anything like my stock MAF and GM MAF.
mountaindewguy
11/15/2006 7:09:36 AM
what do you mean take it out?
silvercoupe97
11/15/2006 7:14:05 AM
Take the entire section that has the maf out. Is your maf connected to the filter?
mountaindewguy
11/15/2006 7:21:32 AM
well, yeah, besides that plastic piece that comes from injen.
silvercoupe97
11/15/2006 7:31:40 AM
What I'm trying to get you to do is to take that part out, look down the honeycombed part (if it is honeycombed) and look at the sensors to make sure that both ends are still connected to them. A 4ft drop can be enough to break the connection on either ends of the sensor. A broken maf will cause issues like what you are encountering or a disconnected one, lol. I've done that before too and my car would die on me and act like I broke something....that is until I remembered that I forgot to reconnect it. Afterwards it was fine again, after about 10 seconds or so.
Anyway, once you look at them, you'll see how fragile they are. Well, they're not all that fragile, but you'll see what I mean. Lightly and I mean lightly press on them to be sure that either leg has not disconnected from either rods/columns. Look at it when you get a chance, you'll see what I'm talking about..unless yours is made differently, either way, it won't be all that different.
silvercoupe97
11/15/2006 7:36:09 AM
Oh, yeah. I'm focused on the maf because that's the only thing that was removed and the only thing that can really do anything to cause your car to act the way it is.
I would remove the entire thing and look at anything pertinent, like the maf. I would check everything in the area that could have been knocked, shorted, grounded, or anything. That's just how I troubleshoot though.
I would suggest you do the same since that's there is something going on now that wasn't before you guys installed the RAM intake, again, my .02.
TheEngineer
11/15/2006 11:41:54 AM
I agree with the mas being the problem. Because the car will do exactly what your talking about if its unhooked or broken
mountaindewguy
11/15/2006 2:16:40 PM
there is a junkyard here that has one for only 35 bucks, i think i'm gonna go grab it. well, on their website it says "air flow meter" is that the same thing? becuase i looked it up online and got the same picture as a MAF.
TheEngineer
11/15/2006 3:56:03 PM
yea i guess it could be called that. Thats a pretty good price for it to. Even if it doesnt fix the problem at least you only wasted 35 bucks
mountaindewguy
11/15/2006 5:07:08 PM
ok nothing. it was from a 4 cyl. but they have the same part number. regardless i put the stock intake back on with the original MAS, still nothing... i'm about to ****ing give up. i can't see how an intake can mess all this **** up. it turns over, but will not start. if it does it starts for like 1/2 of a second, doesn't even get a full start. and if i catch it with the gas it will run but the second i let go its dead.
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