How many CDs can be stored on the music server?

Does anyone know (approximately) how many "normal" CDs can be copied to the music server?
 
Thanks!

At least 30... so far. 

Let me guess... you never did your math homework while going to school, right?    hehe     Just kidding.       Ok, it's a 40GB HD on the nav. I don't have one, but I assume at least 10GB will be used for maps. But to be safe, let's say 20GB is used for maps.   That leaves you with 20GB of songs to stuff in there. One regular CD+R can hold 700MB of data. But normally, people use it up to 650 ~ 670MB or so.   If 1GB = 1,000MB (roughly) and you have 20GB (20GB * 1,000 = 20,000MB).   Now an average MP3 song, with 320kbps (quality) and songs are on average 4min long, each song will take up 10MB. Mind you, these are gooooood quality songs, good music spec.   So 20,000MP divided by 10MB = 2,000 songs.     Now, to find out how mnay CD+Rs that would take, take 20,000MB divided by 650MB (each CD+R - just an average) = 31 CDs.     Now, unless you are a DJ, you will NOT have THAT many songs anyway!   Glad you got that little math lesson? :)

Wow....anyway, 30GB HD???

I have 2685 songs on my ipod. That is 11.91 gigs of space including 5 pictures. As far as how many cds can fit that is unanswerable. Every cd has a different amount of songs and is a different length of time. It will all depend on how long every song is. If you ever fill the built in hard drive, buy an ipod or alot of cd holers for your visor.

well, at 30 gigs, it sould hold 45 cd's if there 650 megabite disks.
At 700 megabite disks, your lookin at 41.
However if your runnin mp3's then  your lookin at 5263 songs (at roughly 5.7 megs a piece) 

OK, let's do the math then...
 
The HDD is 30 GB. I've read elsewhere that up to 24 GB is used for the nav system & other things, leaving 6 GB for music.
 
A very high-quality MP3 (320 kbps vbr, 44 kHz sample rate) comes in at approximately 1.85 MB/min. Assuming that an average CD contains 12 tracks at 4.5 minutes per track, the space requirements for an average CD (assuming that the entertainment system uses an MP3-like compression algorithm) are 1.85 MB/min * 4.5 min * 12 = 99.9 MB/CD (e.g. 100 MB/CD).
 
Since 6 GB =  6144 MB, the number of CDs that should fit on the drive is:
 
6144 MB / 100 MB/CD, which equals 61 CDs.
 
Can anyone confirm this number? (i.e. has anyone been able to put MORE than 60 CDs into the system?) 
 
I suspect that a lower quality compression is used, which should allow for more than 61 CDs (my wild-ass guess is between 100 and 125 CDs).
 
Thanks!

Mitsubishi claims up to 1,200 songs, likely of approximately 4 minutes or more per song.  Based on the 12 song per CD number, that works out to 100 CDs.  And yes, there are 6 GB of space reserved for the music server, so they are using some sort of compression, much less than the speculated 320kbps, just to clarify the numbers floating around out there.  Still, I can't hear a difference in quality between the Music Server and the CDs.
 
Christian, I'm not a DJ, but I have 4,000 songs on my iPod, and I don't even consider myself a music buff.    I'm sure there are lots of people on this board with more.  I've sorted them by ranking on iTunes and am slowly but surely moving my favorite 1,000 + songs to the Music Server by burning CDs.  It's tedious, but I figure by the end of March I'll have what I want on there.  I've got between 400-500 songs on there now.

wow, 24 gigs used for navigation? what are they mapping blueprints for the buildings, as well as exact location of blades of grass... There is no way in hell they use that much for gps maps. You number should be more like 6 gigs for nav (though it is most likely closer to 1 gig) and the remaining 24 for storage.
 
There is no way that it takes 24 gigs to store maps. The most information a dvd can hold is 4 gigs. There isnt a dvd based nav system anywhere in the world that uses a complete dvd for its info, so Figure it like this. 4 gigs for maps and other stuff, 1 gig built in to run the program, and wham your at 5. I highly doubt its that high, but I could be wrong.

I don't think the 24 gigs are just for maps.  There's software on there to to control the music server, calendar, bluetooth, trip data, etc.  It's pretty full featured, and I guarantee it takes much more than one gig of storage.
 
And who knows?  There may be some extra space on there (not dedicated to music) for future upgrades.  the Japanese website shows 3D maps.  http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/outlander/utility/uti_03.html
 
My numbers are coming directly from Mitsubishi's website, BTW.  I can't say whether they're right, wrong, or totally insane, but it's what they say.  6 gigs for music storage, 1200 songs.  period.

****, I had a long post on here, and hit the wrong button tryin to get you info. Needless to say, your just wrong.
Heres what you need to know, Kenwood is launching a had-drive based nav system soon, it uses a 20 gig hard drive, go here for info http://www.japancorp.net/article.asp?Art_ID=7477
in addition, JVC has one on the market with a 40 gig hard drive, and 16gigs dedicated to the nav system, which also boast 13 million points of intrest (alot more than mitus has) it also will hold 6000 songs, (gee at 4.7mb a piece thats 28gigs wow,
In addition to this, consider that the magellan roadmate 6000t is one of the best systems on the market, doesnt have a hard-drive, and has more detailed info than the mitsu model does. go here for info http://www.magellangps.com/products/product.asp?segID=354&prodID=1736

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****, I had a long post on here, and hit the wrong button tryin to get you info. Needless to say, your just wrong.
Heres what you need to know, Kenwood is launching a had-drive based nav system soon, it uses a 20 gig hard drive, go here for info http://www.japancorp.net/article.asp?Art_ID=7477
in addition, JVC has one on the market with a 40 gig hard drive, and 16gigs dedicated to the nav system, which also boast 13 million points of intrest (alot more than mitus has) it also will hold 6000 songs, (gee at 4.7mb a piece thats 28gigs wow,
In addition to this, consider that the magellan roadmate 6000t is one of the best systems on the market, doesnt have a hard-drive, and has more detailed info than the mitsu model does. go here for info http://www.magellangps.com/products/product.asp?segID=354&prodID=1736

 
I'm not sure I understand your point.  First you say that a NAV system should take no more than 4 gigs max, then you mention that JVC's uses 16 gigs?  You're contradicting yourself.  And  as far as the 13 million POIs, do you have Mitsubishi's numbers?  I honestly don't know, but I do know they have a whole lot more POIs than my wife's Odyssey has.
 
Look, I'm not trying to start an argument.  In fact, I'll be the first to plead ignorance concerning this and other NAV systems.  I'm just quoting what Mitsubishi says on their website.  I would also love to know what's on the used 24 gigs.

what I was trying to point out with the whole JVC thing is that theres stores a whole lot more stuff, A WHOLE LOT MORE. If you had bothered to read the article I left for you to read, you would have noticed that it does alot more than the mitsu does, which is why it takes up more space. Also, the hard drive in the mitsu is used soley for one purpose, storage of maps. The rest of the stuff you spoke of takes place inside the head-unit, and every single xls model does it, whether it has the nav system or not. Also note, that it has been stated on here several times that mitsu maps are not accurate, or up to date, and offer almost no poi's.

Would you rather have a DVD and not the Hard Drive? There is so much info that goes into the Navi...not just maps. Have you really looked into how much info is on the Navi HD??
The amount of songs really depends on how the audio is put on the CD before it goes onto the HD. I really doubt anybody will fit the same amount of songs. I have 2 iPods..an 80GB and a 60GB filled. Just pick some really good songs you want on the HD...and the rest will have to wait...or keep changing it up.
 

Did you notice that JVC article was dated 2004?  And I'm just curious, do you have the NAV?  Like I said, I'll happily admit I know knothing at all about other NAVs, but the Mitsubishi one I own and have played with a fair amount.  While the maps ARE a little dated, there are TONS of POIs once you dig into the sysyem.  I'd say on a North American map there must be millions in the system.  If I remember correctly, you can only have 5 or 6 POI types active at one time.  I picked restaurants for one of mine, and at one shopping center I counted 7 restaurants, all coded by type of food (Chinese restaurant marked by Chinese flag, Italian by Italy's flag, etc.).  The entire intersection showed about 15, and only 2 restaurants were not shown (they're less than a year old).  I was actually shocked at how much information there is in the system.  Again, I have no idea how much space that takes, but I just thought you should know the Mitsu NAV is more full featured than you may realize.  It can also speak in three languages.  I think the Spanish girl's voice is sexiest, even though I barely understand a word she's saying... 

Pioneer also had a HHD based Nav system with a 30 GB Hard drive, 10 of which are reserved for music, meaning 20 is used for the NAV, so Mitsubishi's 24 doesn't look that far-fetched.

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVIC-Z1-Navigation-Multimedia-Receiver/dp/B000EM94S8/ref=sr_1_5/102-1355810-0823348?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1173378567&sr=1-5

I have the Pioneer Navi with the 30GB HD. I only had 10GB to play with after all the maps and info and that Navi is 1,000 better than the Mitsu. So I'm sure the Mitsu Navi is the same.

JMC, when you say the Pioneer Navi is 1000 better, what do you mean?  1000 times better?  How so?  Again, I'm just curious, not trying to ruffle any feathers.

The display was better...the interface...the speed...finding places by phone number. Check out the Pioneer AVIC-Z1..........
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/division/demo/0,,2076_310069681,00.html#unit=AVIC%20Z1
 

It amazes me how few people we have here on the Outlander forum, yet you still find ways to argue with each other about everything. Is this the typical Mitsubishi customer?
 
Mitsubishi says there's room for 1,200 songs, so around 100 CDs is a good ballpark estimate.

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It amazes me how few people we have here on the Outlander forum, yet you still find ways to argue with each other about everything. Is this the typical Mitsubishi customer?

Mitsubishi says there's room for 1,200 songs, so around 100 CDs is a good ballpark estimate.

 
lol.  I think we've finished arguing over the original posters question.  Now we've moved on to figuring out exactly what the other 24 GB of space is being used for!
 
JMC, thanks for the response.  Sounds cool.  Maybe, just maybe, the Outlaber can add features via upgrade, like the search by phone number.  That would be pretty nice.  Of course, I'm purely speculating at this point.

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ORIGINAL: biscuit

It amazes me how few people we have here on the Outlander forum, yet you still find ways to argue with each other about everything. Is this the typical Mitsubishi customer?

Mitsubishi says there's room for 1,200 songs, so around 100 CDs is a good ballpark estimate.

There were a lot less peeps here before the new Gen Outlander and we still  found ways to argue without you. I really doubt this is a "typical" Mitsu customer thing...have you ever been on another forum before??? This stuff happens because everybody has an opinion and nobody is out for blood here...it's all in fun so chill. Mitsu says a lot of things and we are just trying to see what the average person is getting from the HD storage.
Crusher....I'm sure we'll be able to get some new features for the Navi as time goes on. Search by phone number is so old by now.

ROFLMAO... ya know the funny part. the truck is that good, so we have resorted to arguing about the nav system. LOL
JMC your right bro, people on forums just argue, its the way it goes, I have learned to take everything in stride, and blast right back...
every one chill, and grab some marshmallows, its gonna be one hell of a flame war!!!

Thanks for the info guys... I agree that it seems reasonable that the server can store about 100 CDs.
 
As for what's using the space on the hard drive... it might be something particular to the Japanese market (i.e. something that we'll never see in North America). I know that in Japan they broadcast television (which people watch in their cars), so maybe the extra space is used for things like that... it would be nice to know though...

Why are you taking songs off your ipod to put onto a cds to put onto your hard drive in your car? Just plug your ipod into the RCA jacks in the back seat and call it a day. It cost about 10$ for the cable.

The iPod won't charge when you plug it into the AV inputs.....and who's taking songs off the iPod to a CD?
I wish the Navi had a full iPod adapter that would show all the iPod info on the screen and charge it too.