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AKILEZ
10/3/2007 8:39:12 AM
If you noticed that your Mivec engine lack power.
 
NOT REALLY....
 
In order to make it faster.
 
1.Choose the right gasoline like mid grade and not cheapy generic gas.
if you did notice putting cheap gas or brand feels a little rough not smooth on the gas pedal accelerating.
 
if you did choose a cheapy gas buy a gas tank cleaner or additives. The Mitsu Manual didn't say anything bad on additives but do it on 25,000 miles not below 25,000 mile. Mine is only 11,000 miles I haven't done it yet.
 
2. Used premium oil not synthetic if you Drive your Car very hard and change it every 3,000 miles not 6,000 miles.
 
3. You notice that your car feels slow on acceleration but not really. The Platform is heavy and feels need more power but actually you are going fast.
 
4. Drive 4th gear like a Man by putting the pedal to the metal but not rough just gradually.
Do not be Finnesse on the MIVEC it doesn't like it. It was really made for tough people
 
It is really a Rally Car for the street.
ENJOY
Sebba
10/3/2007 9:28:04 AM
Okay i have a couple issues with the things mentioned.
 
1) Gas: If it says use premium. Don't use anything else. There should be no question
 
2) Conventional oil should only be used in the first 1000 miles. After that, the engine needs more protection that conventional oil cannot provide.
Sebba
10/3/2007 9:30:00 AM
Sorry... NO clue what happend here
AKILEZ
10/3/2007 9:45:10 AM
I wrote Non Synthetic oil because the Synthetic oil is about $60.00 or more to used every 6,000 miles oil change. The Good but cheap oil are about $25.00 for every oil change that's including oil filter. that's 80 dollars a year oil change A 4 times a year oil change.
more if you put 3,000 miles every 2 months not 3 or 4.
 
do the math if you used Synthetic oil every 3 months? that will be a lot of money.
The Mechanic told me that it is not really a big deal. as long you have oil in the engine.
 
But if you can afford Synthetic every oil change and then go ahead and used synthetic oil
 
You can always clean the engine by Engine Flush every oil change that will clean the system but it is really up to you. But not with a newer engine like the 2008 you have to wait until 35,000 miles or up to engine flush it
 
These are my experiences with my Lancer. Try it and if doesn't work try another cheaper way to oil change.
Sebba
10/3/2007 9:49:44 AM
If you cant afford to maintain it, you shoudnt be driving it.
 
Your mechanic is wrong, and im comfortable putting my neck on the line for that.
 
After 1000 miles you should use synthetic.
 
Ceap = not effective. Synthetic is more expensive for a reason.
 
Also, fram filters suck! See a previous thread on here about it.
Manybrews
10/3/2007 2:40:48 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: AKILEZ

If you noticed that your Mivec engine lack power.

NOT REALLY....

In order to make it faster.

1.Choose the right gasoline like mid grade and not cheapy generic gas.
if you did notice putting cheap gas or brand feels a little rough not smooth on the gas pedal accelerating.

the car doesnt require premium.  using it is a complete waste, as the car is not designed to take advantage of it, and as such will not produce any more power.

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if you did choose a cheapy gas buy a gas tank cleaner or additives. The Mitsu Manual didn't say anything bad on additives but do it on 25,000 miles not below 25,000 mile. Mine is only 11,000 miles I haven't done it yet.

ALL fuel additives are trash.  Complete snake oil, plain and simple.  Dont waste a penny on any of them.
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2. Used premium oil not synthetic if you Drive your Car very hard and change it every 3,000 miles not 6,000 miles.

synthetic is indeed a waste of money, but not due to any performance reason.  the simple fact is that synthetics only advantage is extreme operating temps, which the base lancer will never reach.

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3. You notice that your car feels slow on acceleration but not really. The Platform is heavy and feels need more power but actually you are going fast.

not sure what you mean, but in reality you're talking about an ECONOMY car.  it is not a race car, and anyone  that buys one thinking it is is delusioning themselves.  Its powerful enough for an economy car, but thats about it.
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4. Drive 4th gear like a Man by putting the pedal to the metal but not rough just gradually.
Do not be Finnesse on the MIVEC it doesn't like it. It was really made for tough people

It is really a Rally Car for the street.
ENJOY

what in the world does that mean?  The MIVEC doesnt like it? Like what?
has you're car been talking to you?
Sebba
10/3/2007 3:11:37 PM
Mitsu Tech for 15 years.... cant dissagree.
 
Im curious as to why yo usaid synthetic is only for higher temps. Does it not provide any added lubrication/metal protection over conventional?
AKILEZ
10/5/2007 5:57:31 AM
I dont came to INSULT people and I guess you are one of those People never had a formal education in College.
 
You guys so funny.... Some of those I wrote come from the Mitsubishi Manual...did you read instead of Flabbing your mouth like a bitch.
 
The car doesn' t talk to me dummy
I feel it when I drive it probably you are one those wanna be now how to drive.
 
I learned how to drive when I was 7 years old with a manual 4 speed tranny. While you were still learning how to catch a baseball.
 
15 years of a mechanics doesn'r prove anything. If you a Master Mechanic and past the test every year that you can answer me back. Prove it too!!!
 
Gas is expensive... buy cheapy ones and you will see water in them... dummy that's what I meant...
 
Mivec doesn't like it if a driver doesn't know how to drive. Why you people only believe in yourself believe in other people in respect.
 
The Platform is heavy and the Mivec engine cannot handle it dummy did you noticed that.
Economy Car!!!! why are they selling performance parts for the Lancer!!!!!!
 
The Manual didn't say You Can only used Synthetic.... Read!!!!
 
And my mechanic is Certified Master Technician on Watertown Massachusetts Mitsubishi with a degree in Mechanical engineering and he takes the test almost every year.
 
Go there and asked him..... Please educate yourself and go back to school
 
 
 
AKILEZ
10/5/2007 6:03:12 AM
Cant afford it and dont drive it
 
who the hell are you to tell me that....It's my car
 
Not only saving money it's also saving the enviroment... dummy
 
This is a Forum anyway so who cares
 
Manybrews
10/5/2007 3:29:06 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sebba

Mitsu Tech for 15 years.... cant dissagree.

Im curious as to why yo usaid synthetic is only for higher temps. Does it not provide any added lubrication/metal protection over conventional?
absolutly not.

it is ALL marketing hype.   Synthetic has only one distinct advantage, and thats its ability to lubricate at ultra high and low temps.   Its only a factory fill on cars that will regularly see oil temps in excess of 350 degrees (like the EVO).  It has no benefit other than that, and as such 99 percent of the people that use it are wasting money.
it has its place, but its not in a base lancer.
Sebba
10/5/2007 3:37:53 PM
cry me a river.
 
Manybrews.... interesting. Learn something new every day : )
Manybrews
10/5/2007 3:46:07 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: AKILEZ

I dont came to INSULT people and I guess you are one of those People never had a formal education in College.

You guys so funny.... Some of those I wrote come from the Mitsubishi Manual...did you read instead of Flabbing your mouth like a bitch.

1) who are you talking to?
2)what are you trying to say?   Your sentances are mostly gibberish, and nearly unreadable.  I dont think you should be the one talking about "going to college".
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The car doesn' t talk to me dummy
I feel it when I drive it probably you are one those wanna be now how to drive.

seriously, is that suppost to be english?

and what I posted was "sarcasm".  You should try not to overanalyze this as much as you are.
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I learned how to drive when I was 7 years old with a manual 4 speed tranny. While you were still learning how to catch a baseball.

umm, yeah.   I realize you know everything about me from a single post in a car forum, but perhaps you shouldn't assume ANYTHING about others.
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15 years of a mechanics doesn'r prove anything. If you a Master Mechanic and past the test every year that you can answer me back. Prove it too!!!

Is that a question or a statement?  What is it that you're trying to ask/say there?
seriously, read that sentance.  It makes no sense.
past the test each year?  What test?  ASE's?  Mitsus'?  A "magic" test you created?
as it is, Ive worked on mitsus for 16 years plus.  But I really dont care if you believe it or not.
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Gas is expensive... buy cheapy ones and you will see water in them... dummy that's what I meant...

if someone is selling you gas with water in it, I highly recommend you tell the BBB, among many other agencies.
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Mivec doesn't like it if a driver doesn't know how to drive. Why you people only believe in yourself believe in other people in respect.

MIVEC isnt "magic".  Its mearly a variable valve timing system, which in fact does exactly the OPPOSITE of what you're trying to say.  It flattens the torque curve throughout the entire RPM range, and increases overall engine efficiency in all rev ranges.  this in turn makes the engine much smoother, and easier to drive.
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The Platform is heavy and the Mivec engine cannot handle it dummy did you noticed that.
Economy Car!!!! why are they selling performance parts for the Lancer!!!!!!

the platform is not heavy by any means.   the DE is 2922 pounds, which is only a 150 pounds heavier than the last lancer.  That is VERY light by most cars standards (my diamante is 3505 pounds).
the engine is not powerful, but at 152 HP it has 30 more than the outgoing model.  so it has plenty of power for what it is, which IS an "economy" car.   Im not sure who would even attempt to argue that, as its SOLD in the economy class!
Performance parts for sale does not change what it is.  Hell, you can find performance parts for Geo Metros.

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The Manual didn't say You Can only used Synthetic.... Read!!!!

what?  Are you saying that you can or cant use synthetic?  You seriously need to nail down your sentance structure a bit if you wish to communicate via type.
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And my mechanic is Certified Master Technician on Watertown Massachusetts Mitsubishi with a degree in Mechanical engineering and he takes the test almost every year.

Go there and asked him..... Please educate yourself and go back to school




you're really not that bright, are you?  there is no "mechanics" test to take each year.  If you're referring to ASE certification, I do indeed have all 8 of those (with the higher level L1).  But that means nothing, and the recertifications happen every 4 years.
Sebba
10/5/2007 4:02:27 PM
Im just bias with the whole synthetic thing lol.
 
As for the thing about gas... if the manual says to use premium.. you shouldnt use anything else. Aparently its cool with regular.
BoldlyGoingNowhere
10/7/2007 12:25:45 PM
I usually dont hang out up here, but I couldnt resist.
 
Please educate yourself about gas and what high octane really is. It doesnt make cars go faster the gas doesnt burn better.
 
In fact high octane gas is made to prevent pre ignition, if used in an engine made for regular gas it will not burn as efficient as 87 octane gas will. That is why it stops pinging in older engines with carbon buildup, it allows the piston to compress the gas fully before it ignites. Engines that are designed for high octane gas have higher compression in the cylinder and run hotter, normal gas in these engines would ignite too early causing running problems.  With the motorcycles I work on Ive found higher octane gas doesnt completely burn which causes poor gas mileage.
 
As far as quality of gas its all the same, if you buy 87 octane gas you are likely getting more "actual" gas per gallon because there arent the extra additives to change the octane.
All grades of a certain "brand" have the same cleaner additives. Different brands use different additives.
 
Also you are fooling yourself if you think the sign at the station gurantees the "brand" of additives in the gas. What often happens on franchise stations is the distributor picks up a tank of gas gets the additives for Shell added to the tank  then drives to the Shell station that ordered the tank of gas. If the station cant take the full tank the distributor will call a station on the way often times not a Shell station and dump what they have left in the truck in their tanks so they can go back empty.
 
Also most of the gas in an area will come from the exact same refinery the only difference is the additives for the different brands.
 
You are also kidding yourself about water in 87 octane gas.
 
You are more likely to pull bad gas from high or mid octane gas because the mid/ high gas sells slower so the tanks dont get a full delivery ever and mosture builds up in the half full underground tank, the tanks are never completely run empty.
 
And with gas prices the way they are people are less likely to spend the extra $ on high/ mid so the gas gets old sitting in the ground for extended times getting old and reaching the varnish point.
 
 
 
 
 
 
AKILEZ
10/8/2007 5:52:35 AM
Of course im bright.. I have degree in International Management and Minor in Marketing.... before you humiliate me check your spelling first.. 
 
My sentences gibberish,,, that's funny... look who's talking... I don't have time to check my grammar and spelling or type O... idiot.... I work too,,,, a 12 hour job.
 
You guys really lack common sense like any other Americans.. and thank god I'm not one of them. I bet you voted all for Bush who graduated from Yale....
 
I wonder why formula one race car used high octane gas? If Hi octane gas doesn't make the car GO Faster? why do they used them?
 
 Did I wrote gas makes car faster? LOL that's funny.
 
I mentioned that mid grade Gasoline is better than low grade gas. that was it.
 
Please read the manual again.. The manual did not say ...You can ONLY used synthetic oil. is that loud and clear. Do you think every person out there CARE about what kind of Oil they used on their cars? They don't care!!! they just drive to work or any where they want to go
 
yes it is english... What country do you think We live in? What the hell is manybrew means?
doesn't make any sense... What?!!! trying to brew too many .....is that what you meant?
Is that like "Lord of War" instead of "Warlord".
 
I bet you don't even know the meaning of my name... AKILEZ.
 
16 years being a Auto Technician doesn't mean your A GENIUS and know everything about cars.
 
Additives!!!! check the god damn manual and read it again... if you can't find it, I will give the page to you.
 
Why do they make additives if nobody use them? answer that question pls?
it is a Marketing research.....
 
Tell me so I can won't be so naive about consumer behavior? especially taking care of A Car... I wonder why my 1993 Honda Civic had 450,178 miles on it before it died on me.
 
Because probably I don't know how to take care of my cars. I am not a technician like Manybrews.
 
FU!!!
 
 
 
BoldlyGoingNowhere
10/8/2007 10:32:44 AM
The more you open your mouth the more Im convinced your a "book smart" idiot.

However, your grammar and sentence structure needs some work. Your sentences may make sense to you but those of us who are better at using the English language find your sentence structure and grammar confusing.

Put the books down get out in the real world, do things like purchase a gas station (I did), repair an engine (I have) or drive a race car (my mom did), and then get back to us.

I can guarantee the high octane gas used in racing is nothing like what you get at the pump. Im old enough to have been around in the "leaded" days and have run airplane fuel in my car before it was removed from public access. That was real gas

The high octane wording at stations is misleading to say the least. Do your research and get educated before you start claiming things.

Read what I said dont skim the paragraph. You are not doing your car a favor running mid grade if it isnt called for by the manufacturer.

I suspect the life you got out of your Civic is related to the manufacturer, frequent oil changes and the fact that you dont get snow which causes the body of the car to degrade past usefulness before the life of the drivetrain is exceded.

And stop telling mechanics that have actually touched the inside of an engine they dont know what they are talking about.

Or would you rather I tell you I could do circles around your International Management and Minor in Marketing "certificates" with my poor little purchasing and inventory control experience.
AKILEZ
10/8/2007 11:31:36 AM
You can't read english that's your  idiotic problem... You drive a race car... that's funny.
 
An airplane fuel on your Car?!!! "What are you Mad Max Beyond Thunder Dome"
 
LOL...sa pathetic... by the way,,, can you understand my English now?
And how long did you check your grammar before you post your Idiotic character assasination comment?
 
Certificate in Markting!!!! Blah.... that's pathetic...I didn't went for 2 years.
 
I attended 4 yrs in Management and 2 years in Marketing.
Did my thesis on Automotive Industries all over the world.
 
You meant I have A Degree from Wesleyan University... Not from Bunker Hill Community College certificate....By the way.... why don't you marry ManyBrew bought of you Like Each Other. You seem to protect him.. Fag
 
For the Idiot who doesn't know what is additives... Question
 
What alcohol is added on regular gasoline? answer that smart ass.
You used it on your rice rocket.
 
Oh Please I live in Boston... My Mitsubishi and Honda had almost 500,000 miles on them. I did my own tune up and other stuff. I didn't even went to school jus to repair my own car.
I'm sorry I'm not damn.
 
You must have a 6 months certificate from an Automotive school. Well. I pity you because you need more education to know everything about cars. And some Auto Tech out there educate or have to be train again to fix newly develop engine. especially with Japanese and European cars.  
 
 What the hell is Skim the paragraph??!!! I never heard of such idiotic grammar. What's that Skim Milk?!!! Actually I didn't learn purchasing and inventory control experience in College I learned those in High Shool......You actually learned those in the field.
 
FYI -MF: I learned Managerial and Financial Accounting in College.
 
Sorry I got an A+ plus on my Political science class in High school.
 
 I LOVE DEBATE. next!!!!
 
AKILEZ
10/8/2007 11:37:51 AM
Oh by the way I didn't checked my spelling can you please correct me....
BoldlyGoingNowhere
10/8/2007 12:16:48 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: AKILEZ

Oh by the way I didn't checked my spelling can you please correct me....

I wasn't talking about your spelling. As I said before, which it looks like you missed when you skimmed the paragraph again, you need to work on your grammar and sentence structure.

If I corrected your sentence above it would read
Oh by the way, I didn't check my spelling can you please correct me?

As for what "skim the paragraph" means you should look up the definition in an American dictionary before you make such an ass out of yourself.

There is no debate this is obviously a "pissing contest". A debate would involve facts and you have presented few on your behalf. Look up the definition of fact before you make an ass of yourself again.

Oh...BTW I am a girl therefore fag does not generally apply.  lol


Wasper
10/8/2007 12:56:56 PM
Hi,
 
BoldlyGoingNowhere, you did a fine job explaining octane and what you wrote is true.
 
 Anyone who took the time to google octan will know that putting a higher octane, other then what is recommended in a newer engine, is just a waste of money. The engine in the new 08' Lancers are specifically tuned to run off of 87 octane gasoline, and anything higher is NOT going to increase your performance at all.  I really dont need to add to anything that Boldly already wrote, I beleive she explained it in a coherent way.
AKILEZ
10/8/2007 1:21:21 PM
My grammar is fine..... I don't have to use bling-bling or fancy words.
(street slang for Ivy league grammar) to generate a point to make or even a claim to fame to prove that I know something about cars. I just hate people who always criticize other people.
 
I know Hi speed reading (skimming) but who cares.
 
 I speak 4 different languages and english is one of them.  I don't care if my grammar is wrong or not as long as people can read it and can evaluate my sentence or have the common sense to understand it. I only care if  I made a speech and pronounce "Nuclear" the wrong way or write a book with a terrible grammar.
 
Now I know why "We" Americans are hated by the world.
 
 We are so arrogant about the english language and if we visit other countries like France. We try to speak French but the French doesn't insult or immuliate any Americans that is trying to speak french. Because the French people knows that We are trying to communicate with their own language and they respect that but We Americans are more into criticism.
 
Nobody is perfect in this world. I just want to Share my Experiences to the people who browse this site and to learn from other people on How to take care of A car.
 
So, you smart you noticed "Checked"... I did that in purpose.
 
By the way read Time Magazine and tell me if you can understand their grammar.
 
y
 
 
 
BoldlyGoingNowhere
10/8/2007 2:05:20 PM
Well then you must hate yourself a lot. (read what you have written)
Your full of crap.
And you would never know what its like to go to France as an American and try to speak french, they generally don't care for Americans and make fun of our accent and poor grammar when we speak french.

You should have picked another country to reference that worships the western culture.
 
And once again your full of crap (read what you have written)
Manybrews
10/9/2007 4:54:14 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: AKILEZ

My grammar is fine..... I don't have to use bling-bling or fancy words.
(street slang for Ivy league grammar) to generate a point to make or even a claim to fame to prove that I know something about cars. I just hate people who always criticize other people.

I know Hi speed reading (skimming) but who cares.

I speak 4 different languages and english is one of them.  I don't care if my grammar is wrong or not as long as people can read it and can evaluate my sentence or have the common sense to understand it. I only care if  I made a speech and pronounce "Nuclear" the wrong way or write a book with a terrible grammar.

Now I know why "We" Americans are hated by the world.

We are so arrogant about the english language and if we visit other countries like France. We try to speak French but the French doesn't insult or immuliate any Americans that is trying to speak french. Because the French people knows that We are trying to communicate with their own language and they respect that but We Americans are more into criticism.

Nobody is perfect in this world. I just want to Share my Experiences to the people who browse this site and to learn from other people on How to take care of A car.

So, you smart you noticed "Checked"... I did that in purpose.

By the way read Time Magazine and tell me if you can understand their grammar.

y




good lord, you're an idiot.
First, everyone here knows you're lying about 99 percent of everything you've written.  You constantly prove you have no level of education to boast about, and in fact the very idea that you ARE boasting about your education tells most of us that you're probably no more than a child.

your grammer is NOT fine, and neither is your punctuation or spelling.  We ALL make typos and mistakes; thats not what we're talking about here.  Your basic literacy skills are nearly non-existant.  Your sentances are BARELY comprehendable.

quote:

yes it is english... What country do you think We live in? What the hell is manybrew means?
doesn't make any sense... What?!!! trying to brew too many .....is that what you meant?
Is that like "Lord of War" instead of "Warlord".

umm.. you realize this forum is in fact shared among dozens of countries, right?

quote:

16 years being a Auto Technician doesn't mean your A GENIUS and know everything about cars.

I never said it did.  However, it does mean I know more about Mitsus (and cars in general) than you, whether you like to admit it or not.
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Why do they make additives if nobody use them? answer that question pls?
it is a Marketing research.....


Because people like YOU buy them.  they are COMPLETELY unneeded, and complete wastes of money.  If they were needed, they would be recommended by manufacturers (which they arent), or at least endorsed by manufacturers (which they're not).





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I wonder why formula one race car used high octane gas? If Hi octane gas doesn't make the car GO Faster? why do they used them?

Jesus, you're a thick one.
F1 cars run on fuel that is very close to normal fuel, but the octane will be higher due to the ultra high state of tune.  You realize a F1 engine in 2006 revved to 20,000 RPM, producing about 780 HP, all out of a 2.4 liter v8, right?  your lancer isnt quite so powerful.

no, im afraid octane is NO measure of how much "power" an engine produces, but in fact a measure of its resistanec to pre-detonation.  Higher octanes are only needed if your engines are designed for them, which the base lancer isnt.
But if you dont believe me, read this and believe mitsubishi.  read BOTH pages.



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AKILEZ
10/9/2007 5:38:26 AM
Wow!!!! I am impressed. You made your point. Punctuation marks and spelling that's funny indeed.
 I wonder where you live?!!! (by the way I'm yelling at you, while I am asking you a question)
 
If I'm a child why did you answered all my questions? I am not acting like a child you are because you contradicted everything I wrote.
take care and peace no hard feelings it's only a forum.
 
By the way,
 
Wow good explanation on the additives.
 
I am sorry people are still naive.
 
Wow just imagine 2  brains against one and I still Won.
 
 
 
 
 
Manybrews
10/9/2007 2:57:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: AKILEZ

Wow!!!! I am impressed. You made your point. Punctuation marks and spelling that's funny indeed.
I wonder where you live?!!! (by the way I'm yelling at you, while I am asking you a question)

Huh?   Once again, the sentance is nothing but a mess.   Exactly how does that pertain to ANYTHING that has been spoken about?
Simple answer:  it doesn't.

quote:


If I'm a child why did you answered all my questions?

those were questions?   I couldn't tell, because all of your posts have been either heavily fragmented, with no obvious questions being asked.
quote:

I am not acting like a child you are because you contradicted everything I wrote.

thats probably because you're WRONG about nearly everything you've spoken about so far.  Its not being childish to correct someones terrible misinformation.  Giving out that terrible information will do far more harm than good for others here.
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take care and peace no hard feelings it's only a forum.

By the way,

Wow good explanation on the additives.
 
I am sorry people are still naive.

Wow just imagine 2  brains against one and I still Won.

You're such a dolt.  With one fragmented sentance you say "peace", then follow it up with boasting.
The hypocracy is thick with you.


Here, tell you what.  You want so badly to prove me wrong on anything about fuel or oil additives, post me a link.  Find me even ONE link that is NOT from the manufacturer of whatever additive they are trying to sell, but rather an independant, unbiased source.  Find me one that says any additive is either needed or even beneficial.
You wont be able to.   But I, on the other hand, can find you many that will prove to anyone with common sense (which probably excludes you) that oil and fuel additives are unneeded.
You probably didnt even read the bulletin I posted, did you?   More than likely, its too far "advanced" for you to understand, so heres a different link that maybe you can understand.
http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#Oil%20Additives
read the part about "oil additives". 




 
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