how to reach 11s

hello DSM fans, my names gus, and I'm a master technician, and a professional licence dial in driver at morroso speed way down in here in Florida. I own a performance shop called MP automotive in miami so email me and come check it out. I'm new to the forum, it was being used by an employee of mine who purchased an evo, that we planned to have modified for the track. I was facinated by the evo, just about the only four banger i approve of, so we set out to find the quickest way to hit 11's, and still be safe about it. here is what we found.....

now i'm not trying to be "cool" by giving out false information. this can be proven by following the modification provided. i have the time sheets to prove it and pictures of the modifications if you really need proof.
Anyway, i suggest this set up to everyone looking for fast power, and dont be discouraged if you do these things and hit low 12s. remember driving is very important, but practice also makes perfect...here we go...


Modifications..

Self made manual boost controller (after markets boost controllers will work just fine, i just trust my boost controller more)
FLASH (jestrtunning)
Pro line exhaust  3 " all the way back, including downpipe (none of that Greddy or HKs  fancy stuff, when you've been in the game long enough you realise brands dont mean anything)
255 walboro fuel pump.


thats it....

i ran a 12 .2 the first run
12.00 flat
11.9
and finally 11.7


so in essence it doesnt take much. infact not much at all. comparing how hard it takes other cars to hit 11's. I dont know how long the clutch will last, i'm sure we'll have to change that soon.
anyway i hope you guys enjoy my research and put it to good use. if you guys have any questions at all please ask. doesnt need to be about the evo either. my specialty is american muscle. so ask away.

well thanks for your time everyone
Gus

Hi Gus.  Thanks for the research.  I've got a bunch of EVO buddies and I can agree that it only takes a few right modifications to get an EVO going faster, although, since our track closed down, I don't think my friends will hit 11's just yet and most of them have more mods than that, lol.

It seems to me that reflashing the ECU with a stock setup, alone, helps a lot.

Thank you, thank you for not bashing the EVO, you being a muscle car enthusiast and all.  I see it a lot and it just doesn't make sense...that's just me though.

I can agree about the brand name thing too.  There's just too many things that are made by the same company but rebadged as another and most don't know or don't care enough to research it...oh well.  More off brand but same quality for me

let me ask what year Evo is it, because that makes the difference since no way it is an 03 or an 04 both of those wont get 11s with those mods.
 
I gonna go on a limb and say youve got an 05

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ORIGINAL: ComposeEvo

hello DSM fans, my names gus, and I'm a master technician, and a professional licence dial in driver at morroso speed way down in here in Florida. I own a performance shop called MP automotive in miami so email me and come check it out. I'm new to the forum, it was being used by an employee of mine who purchased an evo, that we planned to have modified for the track. I was facinated by the evo, just about the only four banger i approve of, so we set out to find the quickest way to hit 11's, and still be safe about it.

 
What's up Gus? and welcome to mitsubishiforums.com!
That is one of the most impressive stories I’ve heard. I know how capable Evo's are so I don’t doubt you. I’ve just never heard of it doing that kind of time with just those few mods. That’s amazing! If u don’t mind, can u go into a bit more detail about the boost controller as far as how much pounds u ran, and also the ECU. And was this a 2005 Evo. And as silvercoupe97 said, thanks for not bashing the EVO, you being a muscle car enthusiast. I guess weather it’s imports or domestic, true enthusiasts always recognizes performance.
 

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let me ask what year Evo is it, because that makes the difference since no way it is an 03 or an 04 both of those wont get 11s with those mods.

I gonna go on a limb and say youve got an 05

I was thinking the same thing as i was reading, that its gotta be an 05+

indeed the evolution is an 05. thanks everyone for your replies.and i always give credit when credit is due. the evolution is a beautifully assembled car, its quick in responce, awesome on corners ( which my drag cars are not) and to my surprise quite damn comfortable. so much respect to everyone on this forum.(still i wouldnt trade it in for my z06) lol 

anyway were going to dyno the car tommorow at my buddies shop and i'll be back to give you guys exactly what the cars, peak boost, at what rpms, and more specifications on the flash.i will post exact information, because i dont want to mislead anyone
thanks for the attention

Gus

if you have any question about anything. please contact me through email

Did you do a road flash with jestr?  How much $$$$ are they for a custom flash?  I lived in tampa but now live in Ma so Id need to do a mail in I guess but I want reliable power

the flash was done by a guy from jestr tunning, now working for bullet design. it was indeed a road flash, and yes emonz they do mail ins.. its runs a lot leaner, so I suggest a 255 f.p for peak boost at w.e you set it at. as far as the boost controller. I fabricated it my self.(from parts at homedepot) I set it to 23 pounds which it spikes when you reach about 4.7 .
the rev limiter is pushed back further also. so that you may launch at 5.5 . as for reliabilty, I find it to be quite reliable. its a safe lean, and doesn't jepeordise engine components. 280 cossworths are going in by tommorow, and were going back to my buddies dyno to properly tune them. well see what it runs with them.....if you do this flash, I highly suggest new tires too. cheap tires will spin first gear. and it forces you to ride the clutch alittle more. I had 4 mickies when I launched so it didn't matter..but the first run. was done on dunlop replacment tires. and it was horrible. so with good. soft grain tires you should be fine... anyway. goodloock everyone..and please let me know how it goes with your evos!

gus


emonz. let me know if you want their number. see what you can work out

Compose, can you post the dyno after you install your set of Cosworth Cams?

That is impressive. Just a word of caution. Don't be too discouraged if you can't run those numbers. In the first sentence he states " licensed professional driver". That has alot to do with it. I know the weakest link in my setup is in the drivers seat ( me ).  My car, just like my golf clubs are alot more capable that the person running them. I'm hoping to change that with practice, practice, practice !!!! 
Welcome to the forum Gus, and thanks for the info, especially in the driving suggestions thread. 

sure thing extreme. i'll post the extact number in about a week or so, because right now the evos on a lift, were installing an act clutch. as soon as that's finished, were heading back to my buddies dyno and tunning the cams.
it shouldnt take more then a week, depending on how fast i can get rid of some of the cars in the shop.

ill keep you posted.

do you have cossworths? how much hp did you gain? so i can have an idea.

Gus

ComposeEvo, Unfortunately I didn't dyno my Evo before or after installing the Cosworth Cams.  My butt dyno tells me there is more power and WORKS claims 20hp - 35hp but I would still like to hear from others as there aren't many Evo's around with Cosworth Cams installed and dynoed yet.  How did the ACT clutch install go...mine took forever!!

Hey xtreme.  I noticed you ran a 12.5,  would you mind sharing your 60 ft and trap speeds with us.  Im just curious

lol. were done with the act clutch, we finished it today, it was a pain, but ive had worse. Now all we have to do is finish some cars at the shop and we'll have some time off for the dyno.280 cams are alittle harder to tune, but i'll get it running right. i plan to make atleast a 25 hp gain on his car.

I see you run a 12.52, that's fanstatic. i was also curious like emonz to know what did you run on your short (60ft) and final mph. just to know if maybe you could have squeesed some more time out of it. What i recommend is to upgrade your fuel pump, and make your own boost controller, at about 23psi, you should be able to shave that time down jurastically.( use 110 octane when you run on the track. just to be safe, because your leaning out the engine when you flash it)

you could go with an aftermarket B.C but i find the self made one more reliable.
let me know how it goes, and i'll have those dyno reports as soon as i can

Gus

He doesnt need to run 110 or 116 if he doesnt want to.  A flash isnt ungodly lean he is only at about an 11.1 AFR  that is fine for 93 or 91 and his flash controlls the boost but its only at like 21PSI I bet.  either way I gonna go out on a limb and say he prob.  should have done better than a 12.5 with his mods since mod IX's are getting that on cat backs and a flash that is why I am curious to see his 60ft.  im thinking his 60fts will be like 1.9-2.0ish range and his traps will be like 115 or something

i doubt his trap was at a 115, being as though all your time is made at the launch in an evo, it's rare to see that high mph running a 12.5. Maybe if he spun his tires  it could happen.  If it is true, that your mph is that high, at 115, thats easily an 11 second car. or very low 12s depending on your style of driving.

as for the 110 octane, i always recommend it to everyone, in alot of cases it's not needed. but it's always safer when leaning out the engine.Even if it's minimal. you figure you do 5-7 full all gear passes on average at the track, it's for personal reassurance.

Gus

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ORIGINAL: ComposeEvo

i doubt his trap was at a 115, being as though all your time is made at the launch in an evo, it's rare to see that high mph running a 12.5. Maybe if he spun his tires  it could happen.  If it is true, that your mph is that high, at 115, thats easily an 11 second car. or very low 12s depending on your style of driving.

 
I think that is what emonz was getting at is that the car should be running a low 12 to high 11 with the mods he has on it

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ORIGINAL: ComposeEvo

i doubt his trap was at a 115, being as though all your time is made at the launch in an evo, it's rare to see that high mph running a 12.5. Maybe if he spun his tires  it could happen.  If it is true, that your mph is that high, at 115, thats easily an 11 second car. or very low 12s depending on your style of driving.

I think that is what emonz was getting at is that the car should be running a low 12 to high 11 with the mods he has on it

that is exactly what I am getting at.  His car is running a 12.5 which is what most other IX's run with half of his mods.  So I am assuming he 1) spun alot of 1st and 2nd or bogged or 2) had trouble shifting as alot of evos trannys tend to do.
 
his car should be easily a low 12 sec car IMO

lol. you just said, exactly what i was thinking, but didn't want to say because i figured it was too blunt. I know exactly your point emonz
I'm sure with practice, he'll make that evo run high 11's. just takes some time.
Gus

P.S let us know what your short was,and trap speed. maybe we can help you shorten that time alittle more.

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lol. you just said, exactly what i was thinking, but didn't want to say because i figured it was too blunt. I know exactly your point emonz
I'm sure with practice, he'll make that evo run high 11's. just takes some time.
Gus

P.S let us know what your short was,and trap speed. maybe we can help you shorten that time alittle more.

as long as we are on the same page.   Xtreme knows that I have no intention to be hard on him or down talk him fact of the matter is it could have been his first ever track run.  personally I have never ran at the track and ill have it be known I dont think I would run my  car to its full potencail either on my first day up there.  I however do have fun practiing alot so we will see this season but I will need some real tires if I plan n running a 50trim turbo cause I know 1st and 2nd will have no traction if not

tires is the name of the game when you want the best times at the track, i suggest micky tompson drag radials, not full slicks. They grip to hard and doesn't let torque be converted smoothly. It also puts  major stress on your tranny, plus most full slicks need to get hot, and unless you have the power to burn out all four, then get d.r.

What drag strip is near you? 

New England Dragway  in eppin NH.  problem for me is I have no trailor and its about a 100mile drive so I dont want to beat the car to hard so I dont need to call a tow truck and foot that bill.
 
I have heard alot og great things about the BFG comp t\A drags.  I actually have a set sitting around but they are 235\60\15s I think and I only got 2 and they have cragar 15x8s I want to say.  Oh well I gotta to sell those for some cash at this point anyway

oh i see, i know the mickey tompson go for about 160 per tire, for the 235/45 17's. If you want top of the line, go with the hoosiers, that's what i have on the vette. but be prepared to spend a pretty penny. what i suggest you do for the transportation is buy one of those cheap trailer flat beds, and attack it to a truck, or a car that can handle the load. and save yourself some cash. I dont know how it is up there, but down here in miami, tow trucks are expensive.
If you buy the bed, you figure you have a sure way of getting to the track for furture trips

Gus

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ORIGINAL: ComposeEvo

oh i see, i know the mickey tompson go for about 160 per tire, for the 235/45 17's. If you want top of the line, go with the hoosiers, that's what i have on the vette. but be prepared to spend a pretty penny. what i suggest you do for the transportation is buy one of those cheap trailer flat beds, and attack it to a truck, or a car that can handle the load. and save yourself some cash. I dont know how it is up there, but down here in miami, tow trucks are expensive.
If you buy the bed, you figure you have a sure way of getting to the track for furture trips

Gus

or another solution is to buy a gold membership for about $150-200 a year and then you get 4 tows per year for up to 100 miles per tow. Then your all set.

which if I am ever not lazy I will get