antox18
8/9/2006 8:30:48 PM
hey wassup i got 7 g's and need to kon if it is possible to make my car a 10 sec or 11 sec car and if so where.
estraw
8/9/2006 8:39:08 PM
what kinda car?? do you have any performance mods done to it yet?
Sebba
8/9/2006 8:44:27 PM
Oh im going to enjoy this. Talk to me on aim with full details of the car and i will write you out a fully explained stage/price plan with links to every single part.
AIM: NitrousJunkie101
ictponder
8/9/2006 9:00:10 PM
stage 3 stage 3.....get a stage 3
davidmitsusrock
8/9/2006 9:44:32 PM
i am going to enjoy this as well.
TheEngineer
8/10/2006 8:14:30 AM
yea we kinda need to know what year, model the car is to give you some good advice, and if you happen to have a 2g gs or rs then i think you can pretty much forget about 10's because i dont even think that has been acheived.
Sebba
8/10/2006 10:36:34 AM
hahahaha. Still aint contacted me on AIM...
93eclipsegsx
8/10/2006 5:23:20 PM
mine will be able to hit 10's on my stage 3
EMonz57
8/10/2006 7:03:54 PM
10s for $7k wont happen when you figure the turbo alone to make the car go that fast is 3-5k on top of needing a built motor and head and drivetrain and hopfully its AWD

this is just unrealistic
Sebba
8/10/2006 7:17:18 PM
thats jack EMonz. A GT35R isnt even 2k
davidmitsusrock
8/10/2006 7:56:45 PM
give it a 1000 shot nitrous
antox18
8/10/2006 8:00:14 PM
im serious. i need info please. also should i try th rre 1st gen upgrade path.
davidmitsusrock
8/10/2006 8:05:08 PM
you are not going to make a 10 second awd dsm with 7k its simple but there is lots of potential with that 7k, i say do a complete motor build up then go bigger turbo, higher boost, and so on
www.dsmtalk.com www.****s.com check those
antox18
8/10/2006 8:07:10 PM
how fast can i make it with 7k
antox18
8/10/2006 8:09:33 PM
rre has this setup for my 1st gen
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I N I T I A L M O D S
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ITEM Nicer Choice Cost Budget Choice Cost
Air filter Road/Race Uni-foam Filter
K&N Filter $40
$40
Exhaust Apex N-1 for AWD cars $490 Muffler shop 2 1/2" - 1 resonator, straight thru muffler, simple tip, mandrel bent, cat back $250-450
Install exhaust $40 labor
Free Mods Install Air filter and remove the BCS restrictor (raises boost 2-3 psi), Cut air can for more air flow,
remove silencer $30 labor
Fuel Pump A direct replacement, your stock fuel pump flows 100 liters per hour @ 43 psi @ 12V. This pump flows 150 lph. Denso In-Tank. $165
Install AWD
FWD $35 labor
$75 labor
Boost controller GReddy PRofec-B $350
Install $40 Manual Boost Control $60
Install included
Boost gauge GReddy Electronic 60mm
GReddy Electronic 52mm $165
$140 VDO 52mm $55
Install & A-Pillar Mounting Pod $70
Upper I/C piping and BOV
(local installs only) RRE Curved upper I/C pipe 2 1/4"
(to clear cruise or ABS) $225 RRE Straight upper pipe 2 1/2"
(If you are man enough to junk your cruise control, ABS, or battery and everything in the way) $175
Install upper pipes
The RRE upper pipes can be more custom matched to the car, straighter and larger diameter. $40
Spark Plugs and Wires Magnecor 8.5mm wires
NGK BP7ES plugs (set of 4) $79
$10
Install plugs and wires $10
Down pipe RRE 2 1/2" $200 RRE 3" $250
Install down pipe $20
High Flow catcon 2 1/2" $150 3" $150
Install catcon $25
Apexi AFC To take full advantage of all the air flow that you now and are about to have, you need more fuel and the ability to control it. It may seem a little early to be concerned about more fuel but the stock turbo can easily max out even 550c injectors (stock are 450cc) on the street with pump (92) gas.
The Apexi AFC fuel controller takes the signal from the Mass Airflow Sensor and either speeds it up or slows it down at different rpm points to trick the ECU run the injectors to run richer or leaner.
AFC and RC/Lucas 550cc injectors $600 AFC and Denso 660cc injectors $750
Install AFC and Injectors
Includes new o-rings, hook up the Data Logger and show you how to tune it. $160
Exhaust Gas Temperature Gauge
(Necessary for tuning the AFC and running safe) GReddy Electronic Peak/Hold 60mm $225 GReddy Electronic 52mm $165
Install EGT
Install probe only $75
$25
Jumptronix A/F Ratio Meter Digital readout of the O2 sensor voltage $85
Install Jumptronix Meter $30
Port Exhaust Parts This is good for 15hp alone. The stock manifold flows well enough for up to around 400hp if ported, along with the exhaust housing of the turbo and the turbo outlet (O2 sensor housing)
Port Exhaust Manifold
Port Turbo Exhaust housing
Port Waste Gate
Port Compressor Outlet
Port O2 Sensor housing
Port All
Wicked Port All
If Exhaust Manifold is cracked, new 2G manifold
Broken Studs (common) $75
$75
$40
$35
$75
$225
$300
$180
$40+
T U R B O
If your turbo is dead, time to upgrade. With the 16-G, you can keep the boost down and need only an upgraded fuel pump. To run over 15-16 psi boost on pump gas safely, you will need more fuel.
Mitsubishi
TDO5-16G 7cm This turbo is good for solid low 12 second 1/4 mile times. It can sound manly to say you have a bigger turbo but this is all 98% of you need.
16G
Big 16G
Clip 10 degrees (best for dragster types only)
Porting (see above)
Install Gaskets (inc 7cm gasket)
Broken Studs (common)
SS Oil Supply Line (optional) $620
$695
$75
$45
$40+
$55
For larger turbos you will need an upgraded intercooler and something to either upgrade the 1G MAS to a larger one or eliminate it.
TDO5/TDO6-20G 7cm This turbo is rated to 425hp and will run low 11s.
Turbo only
Clipping 5-15 Degrees
Install is custom $1100
$75
$300+
Biggee Turbos A Mitsubishi TD0-6 cartridge and exhaust wheel. Uses a Mitsubishi 7cm exhaust housing that has been bored to fit the TDO-6 wheel. The 20-G style compressor housing is machined to fit a Garrett 46 trim or 50 trim wheel making it effectively a bolt-on T3-T4 turbo.
Biggee Turbo Turbo only
Install is custom $1250 to $1375
$300+
An external waste gate may be required to control the boost if you are using one of the larger upgrade turbos, especially if you are running with no catalytic converter at "the track". A well running 16G without a cat will also require an external waste gate.
TiAL Wastegate WG only
Install is custom $250-350
$200+
Advanced Tuning
With AFC: Take out the lower MAS honeycomb if you monitor O2 voltage and EGT
For applications over 275hp cut away lower MAS channel entirely or switch to 2G MAS or HKS VPC
2G MAS Install - Flows more air than the stock air flow meter. Needs a 2G air filter and turbo inlet hose. Must be used with the AFC.
2G MAS Install Used 2G MAS
2G Injen Filter
Install labor $150-$250
$75
$100-250
HK$ VPC Variable Performance Computer - Eliminates factory air flow meter for less restriction before the turbo. Uses the factory air box with air flow meter removed, or buy a K&N-type open filter & adapter to replace air box completely. Different programs available for stock injectors or 550cc injectors. For larger injectors, we use the AFC to further compensate. In cold weather, it can cause poor fuel mileage and/or erratic idle speed. HK$, the losers that they are, can not seem to ever have them in stock. We gave up. $900 was too much anyway.
HKS VPC Used VPC
Install labor $450-650
$120
M I S C
Now your clutch is slipping pretty bad.
Clutches Excellent All Around CF 2500lb Ball Bearing
Best but Strong Left Leg: ACT 2600lb
Lighten flywheel and re-surface
Gear Oil
Install labor AWD
Install labor FWD $375
$395
$135
$ 29
$250
$225
IC mods Modify stock I/C with larger inlet and outlet with 2 1/4" piping $200
FMICs Front Mount Intercooler
RRE/Griffin top to bottom flow, inc. piping from the turbo to the IC and from the IC to the fender well area.
IC with end tanks only
Raw pipe bends and hose and clamps
Full kit
Install $475
$175
$800
$150
Cams Street Car: HKS 264 Intake/272 Exhaust combo
Race Car: HKS 272 Intake/272 Exhaust combo
(When we say "Street car, we mean a car that you care about bottom end power and response. "Race" is a car that you want mad top end power and don't care much about bottom end power or spool up.)
Install cams
$580
$150
Ignition MSD Digital DIS-2
Install MSD (Under hood only)
Wire 2-Step $350
$60
$80
Throttle body Install a bigger throttle body and port the intake manifold inlet to match
Throttle Body (exchange)
Install, port match, and adjust TPS $250
$75
Cylinder Head Port Cylinder Head
Remove and install head
Valve Job
Upper Gasket Set $300+
$500
$225-$400
$140
Intake Extrude Hone Intake Manifold
Install $375
$150
5Tizzle
8/10/2006 9:47:30 PM
for 7 grand you could probably afford a small rocket booster
EMonz57
8/10/2006 10:14:53 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Sebba
thats jack EMonz. A GT35R isnt even 2k
ya the turbo...but to run the turbo you need a manifold a waistegate down pipe stand alone ect ect ect.
last time I saw the 35r turbo kit was up in the range of 4k now you need a built head and bottom end to see tens as well. not to mention a stand alone is a good $1000+ unless you use DSM link.
every EVO running low 10s has atleast $10k if not more in mods except the EVO IX. no way it would be cheaper on a DSM. 11s is a totally differenct story I saw 11s for $7k is a little more logicall.
EMonz57
8/10/2006 10:18:16 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Sebba
thats a nice ass setup!
most of that setup is no good to get 10s.
who uses a 150lph pump??
and an SAFC running 10s.
getting tens is not easy AWD or not it requires half a brain deep pocket and great tuning, oh and dont forget the driver mod
Sebba
8/10/2006 10:24:01 PM
lol i was thinkin that... wtf about the 150lph fuel pump? Isnt that only slighly better than stock? Yea dude you are going to need like DSMLink or maybe even a stand alone.
EMonz57
8/11/2006 12:02:16 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: Sebba
lol i was thinkin that... wtf about the 150lph fuel pump? Isnt that only slighly better than stock? Yea dude you are going to need like DSMLink or maybe even a stand alone.
a 150 is only good to get maybe high 12s if that lol... the stock evo pump is only getting me low 12s and I think it crapped out so the 255 should be in tomorrow
Sebba
8/11/2006 12:05:28 AM
Sweet...
Yo read my post about the 16g