Is 12.73 a good 1/4 mile run?

I was just wondering if that was fast or not. The car that did this is auto. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200152522062

What could be added if i wanted to make it faster? It already has all kinds of mods on it.

Also, if it was a stick would it really be that much quicker??
Would it get a better launch????????
Could the car take 30 psi?

Yes thats a good time.. it will take 30 psi on race gas.
 
Why the hell would you want an automatic car though?

What psi will it run on 93 octane? And i dont really care if it is auto or manual as long as it is fast. But thats what i was trying to get answered. Does a stick really make it that much faster or give it significant acceleration or what??

What would u reccomend performance for it to make it even faster?

Well the next step would be really expensive...
 
Yes actually, the stick does make a big difference.
 
Well you can crank it up to about 25

So you think i should just hold out and wait for a stick i like? Especially since the next step is expensive and ill look like a complete douchebag with an auto anyway.


U know anywhere i can get a gsx stick for under 5000? You think that it will be hard to find?

Not one with that many mods

I just found a nice one and it is almost completly stock so i can do all the mods myself. But it has a huge gay ****ing decal down the side. How hard is a decal to get off?

Very easy.. all you need is a blow dryer

Its pretty fast now. I can always just buy a manual tranny in the future and add a clutch kit and **** to get some more speed. I think i'll just go with it for now.

No you cant... but okay : )

Ya.. Thats not worth it at all..   If you want a stick buy a stick in the first place..  That swap is not an easy swap to do, nor cheap.

and why would you want to anyway, Automatice is always faster then manual, whe you reach high horpower applications. Which is what this particular eclipse was built for. Plus it's alot easier when you want to cruise.

Gus

Thats wrong.
 
What is the fastest Auto and Manual DSM?

Auto works alot better with older V8 applications newer auto trannies really are not built for racing so you could build it i dont really know if they makes the parts for the newer auto trannies but i would say in a 4 cylindar application really no matter how high you get the horses i would rather have a stick look at some of the 1000whp 4g63t s ....stick

good price for that car imo. 

Ya, most times manual is better compose..  Only import that ive heard to be better as an auto is the supra..  Other than that, I havnt heard of any..

The older Audi's

listen import or not, when you get into high applications, theirs no better then automatic. I'm sure the fastest powered 4g63' brent rau car is automatic. It's always going to be faster, wether it's imports or domestics. Now the fact that imports dont exactly have as reliable automatic trannys, as manual is a diffrent story. Or that their more difficult to tune.
When you get to the nine second and 8 seconds streets cars, you rarely see manual tranny's because its too depending on human error.  I'm sure the day they can swap out the manual awd tranny the evo's have for an automatic race tranny, is the day all the AMS/Bushur track cars become automatic.

Trust me when i tell you, automatic will always be faster, just ask Vinny Budano if he'll trade his tranny for a manual.  He drives the world fastest street car.


Gus

dude, first of all, you're talking about two totally opposite ends of the spectrum... if your first post you said its better for high hp applications, and also better to cruise... how many 9 second cars do you see just cruising around town for a joy ride? hardly ever... and what are the chances this guy is going to be building a car that fast? For a daily driver, which is what im assuming his car is going to be, a stick would be better.  I believe that driving a stick makes you a better driver naturally because it keeps you on your toes, you're more alert.  Also, having a manual transmission will be better on gas mileage, aaaaaaaand it's easier to tune and cheaper to get repaired... in these kind of applications a manual transmission will beat out an automatic.... i would like two identical cars of this caliber, one manual and one automatic, line up on the drag strip, and see who wins that race... a-thank you

anyone who says that manual is better has never driven a high HP car. Because it doesnt matter what type of car or engine it is. If its getting over 400hp than its gonna start to be a pita because you need a beefy clutch and its starts to get annoying. And if you are asking all these questions about this car then it seems obvious to me that you shouldnt own it since youll probably blow it up if you dont know enough, especially since its tuned with dsmlink

the only reason they use auto in drag racing is because its more consistant, not necessarily faster.  When ur running for a championship u want to run the same time always, thats why they use auto.

im saying that auto can be better also for street driving. Like mikes EVO which is only at around 400hp, is a PITA to drive around the street because of the clutch you need for it. So its not all about drag strip

I agree with all of you. But i think a little rule for clarification is needed.
 
Like TE was trying to convey.
 
400> = Better in a stick. Strictly for comfort reasons
<400 = Better in auto, for consistancy and comfort.
 
As always, there is an element to personal preference. If your thighs weigh 60lbs each then you wont have such a problem lol.
 
Also, sinse this is intended to be used as a street car, the only elements of the equation that apply are comfort, because the consistancy is only utilized on a track. So, if you are cool with a heavy clutch, then i say its worth just doing it. If you dont want that hassle. Then auto.
 
I understand that i cant really speak for the high hp cars, because i havnt driven anything major, and maybe thats why im a 'puritan' when it comes to my transmissions. I like to drive, not be driven. Also there is the added element of control or lack of. With a clutch you are able to correct and control a sudden loss of traction, an automatic transmission makes this more difficult. Just little things like that.
 
So, with that in mind, i guess you have to draw your own conclusion.

An automatic is always faster because of it's ability to switch gears almost instantly, and maintaning more efficient power band. And yes, it's a hell of alot more consistant then manual.

I suggested to keep the car automatic because as the auction displays, the platform of the engine is for high horsepower. It's obvious he's not settling for a 300hp. So i would say keep the automatic tranny.

I guess it's a matter of  what engineer said. wether or not you have a high hp car. you'll see what a pain it is to drive, and how cars that are automatic are wizzing by you at the track. with less horsepower. And no matter how fast you shift, it's not as efficient. Just ask any real driver.

Gus

Dude racing an auto is ok for girls or consistant times at the track. Outside of these two things it puts you on the fast track to appearing as a douchebag or a poser.

[sorry man just call it as i see it]