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Fast4s
6/15/2005 8:38:36 PM
I own a '97 Lancer MR, and I have personally rebuilt the 1.8L engine myself, I can produce engineers certificates so its all legal.
I moulded, bored and polished the parts myself.
90% of the engine is now solid titanium and the rest is carbon billet steel. It's fully balanced, and a hell of a lot lighter. It took about 8 months!

Now down to details,
4x1000cc injectors
bored to 2.0L
titanium NA intake running through a custom twin-turbo, top mount water to air intercooler
super high flow intake manifold
custom high response throttle body
Stage 3 carbon cams
hidden twin pipe solid titanium 3" cat back exhaust with silencers
WAVE aluminium radiator
steel braided silicon hoses
Had a bit of trouble fine tuning the fuel rail but got it going
2x660cc fuel pumps
titanium heat-wrapped 4 to 2 headers
0.8mm copper head gasket
NGK Iridium IX spark plugs
Top Gun 8mm high flow ignition leads
Dual spark ignition coil
one piece carbon driveshaft
carbon flywheel
titanium front axle
custom 6 speed heavy duty gearbox
custom mapped Apexi power FC stand alone engine management system
For now the redlines at 9200rpm

That's it so far, im saving for some new silicon tyres. I haven't stuck it on a dyno yet but, the way the stock tyres spin out im guessing theres a little bit of a power increase there.

End of brag
bjsstang05
6/25/2005 5:51:33 PM
LMAO sweet though. wheres the turbo i didnt think they made carbon flywheel. but hell im new to this site and these cars! LOL hell get some kumho or nitto tires those will hold up nice on the dynojet. get that thing up on the dyno i want to see some numbers BTW: have you seen i think it was a 2004 mitsubishi lancer MR i think it was video? the guy put about 20G into the thing to get 600 hp out of a 4-cylinder engine thats damn sweet!!!
heres the video....... hope it works for ya.
brandon

http://srvidz.vidiac.com/player.aspx?fileid=1BF870F3-B471-479B-8E5F-8BCF61D2EB57
Billiard
6/25/2005 8:04:38 PM
how can it be Naturally Aspirated if you are running twin turbos?
bjsstang05
6/26/2005 5:08:58 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Billiard

how can it be Naturally Aspirated if you are running twin turbos?


agree whats up with that? and a 4-cylinder cant handle twin turbos.

brandon
bjsstang05
6/27/2005 6:48:41 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: bjsstang05

quote:

ORIGINAL: Billiard

how can it be Naturally Aspirated if you are running twin turbos?


agree whats up with that? and a 4-cylinder cant handle twin turbos.

brandon


let me clear this up. a four cylinder engine would benefit more with single turbo rather than a twin turbo set-up. depending on what kind of power you want out of the engine. you can get diffrent size turbo(s) like an HKS or turbosnetics or what have you. i didnt want to be mean or nothing just wanted to be informative about this.

brandon
Fast4s
7/28/2005 1:08:46 AM
Sorry been off 4 a bit, in response to Billiard I meant that it is NA but I've got it running through an intercooler rated for a twin-turbo, it cools it down so it can suck more in, which means more power, but it's not big enough to drop the pressure. Plus, I'm not really fussed on the turbos, it takes a lot of tuning to get the response time to match that of an NA.

Just for bjsstang, I've since put 17x8 Enkei Arashi rims on it, with toyo Proxes T1R, R-compound semi-slicks, filled with nitrogen, and a full race-grade wheel alignment. Spiked with a bit of nitro-methane on the dyno it pulled, wait for it, 298KW at 7450rpm and 513Nm at 6100, without boost! But because most of the power is in the weight reduction, it'll have a lot more power moving on the road. And carbon flywheels are a lot lighter and stronger than aluminium or a grinded version.

And 4 those of you who don't know what I mean by the "hidden exhaust", I mean the pipes end halfway under the car instead of out the back, I've salvaged the OEM muffler and bolted it back on to make it look like it's stock. I've also added Top Secret suspension from Japan, they sell a cup kit so you can electronically control the height of the struts, NO HYDRAULICS OR AIRBAGS, and it's fast too! And the bootlid has been remade with carbon fibre and colour-matched to the OEM paint to hide it and lighten the rear to help with cornering. The handling's brilliant!

This time I've almost paid off a full Alpine stereo system, all new state-of-the-art stuff.
DVD headeck
6 1/2" Type-R components at the front
6 1/2" Type-R coaxials at the back
12" Type-S sub
V12 75wX4 main amp
and digital 750w sub amp

Anyway keep the questions coming in I might get some ideas of what to do next!

MAJOR SLEEPER COMING SOON!
Prophet
7/28/2005 1:26:49 AM
You know I am going to wait until I see pictures of this car before I say anything......
Fast4s
7/28/2005 1:50:05 AM
Fair enough, I don't actually have a digital camera at the moment but I'll see if I can borrow one from somewhere, outside it looks almost stock, even in the engine bay there's only a few differences. The radiator's been painted black, the cam gears aged, ignition leads painted black, and the rubber OEM intake pipe has been put on over the titanium one, while going for the ultimate sleeper, it's designed not to be defectable, the cops over here are pretty strict when it comes to mods. The only main difference is the heat wrapped headers, and the Redline intake filter pod hanging out. I'll be getting the stereo in a few weeks, so I'll get you pics of that too!
Prophet
7/28/2005 4:23:30 AM
Kind of hard to hide twin turbo's. What kind of turbo's are you using and who made the exhaust mani for it? I would like to see pictures of that. Also where are you from? Reason why I ask is in your first post you say that your have all the certficates to prove everything is legal but then in your last statement here you say that your building a sleeper because cops are strict. If you have documents that prove that there legal why worry about cops? Your also still confusing me about the N/A intake on a intercooler. Please explain in detail how you have your intake set up. Also who makes alot of the parts in your first mod list? Like the... "Stage 3 carbon cams"
DSMTalonAWD51
7/29/2005 12:03:48 AM
twin turbos on a 4 cylinder, fwd car is retarded. do you actually want the tires to spin more?? id want all the lag i can get. with that kinda setup you probly would run like 15.3@130mph. sorry, but it just sounds like crock, id also like to know how you made all that power on the dyno with no boost, and how you even dynoed with no boost because usually people floor it on the dyno, you cant just turb turbos off. thirdly, id like to know how "the increase in power is mostly due to weight reduction". weight reduction can make you faster but itl never give your car more power, especially on a dyno. ready to tell us what you really drive?
Prophet
7/29/2005 2:38:09 AM
lol... so I am not the only one who seen that too. Also how you going to afford all this custom work but not have enough to buy a digi? First thing I would have done is buy a camera so I can record the progress.
bjsstang05
7/30/2005 4:58:02 PM
hmm i heard in a magazine i think it was turbo magazine or something like that ' for every pound lost is equal to 1 hp gain' dont kill the messenger LMAO
Fast4s
8/2/2005 7:43:54 AM
OK for those who can't get it the intake is made up of;
a redline filter pod
titanium intake pipe with OEM rubber hose over the top
and a small water-to-air intercooler RATED for a twin-turbo

Note: NO TURBO'S
It's still running NA through an intercooler designed to cool the air charge down without dropping the pressure too much so I can get more power out of it.
How do you think I could manage twins with compression up that high?!

I live in Australia, and the reason I worry about defects even with the certificates, is that though the mods are OFFICIALLY legal, if the cops here are in a bad mood (frequently), and see 1 thing that's shinier than normal, they'll bust you for it, and go looking around the car for other mods to bust you for. An example is one kid got busted for having a fancy bodykit, because it was "poorly fitted", or one that was in the papers, a guy had just bought a new car and was driving home, got pulled over, and busted for his STOCK foot pedals, his car was impounded because it was "unsafe to drive" barely an hour old!. Also a P plater lost his licence because he had his stereo up too loud! Half the time they don't care about the certs, they're mainly for the RTA so I can keep it registered anyway.

Some of the parts I made the others came from HKS, APEXi, Injen, Top Secret Japan, and a few other places, the bootlid came from precision plastics and composite supplies down the road, made exact to specs.
Personally I swear by the service at Top Secret they'll custom make anything at the highest quality as long as you can afford it, they're pretty much the best parts you can get, especially for Japanese cars. Check them out at www.topsecretjpn.com .(shameless plug there!)

The more power due to weight reduction was a figure of speech, you know what I meant anyway.

Plus I'm concentrating on getting the car up and running for show and go, rather than getting a camera, and how are you meant to take photos to record the progress if it's a sleeper, until I do the interior anyway?!
Prophet
8/2/2005 3:13:18 PM
I think it is because where understanding english different. What your trying to say is you have a N/A (natural aspirated) set up with NO turbo's but you have some kind of air intake set up using an intercooler correct?
Fast4s
8/4/2005 2:49:01 AM
Yep thats right
Prophet
8/4/2005 5:05:08 AM
Ok now where getting somewhere......

This is a first for me. I have never heard of anyone using an intercooler on a N/A set up.

Can anyone translate this into HP/TQ?
quote:

298KW at 7450rpm and 513Nm at 6100
Fast4s
8/5/2005 7:07:41 AM
It's not much, about the same as adding a cold air intake kit, just a little bit cooler, probably about 2.5 KW if designed and tuned properly
Prophet
8/5/2005 11:59:54 AM
Yeah but I would like to know what it is. You have me curious about your set up and I want to know why you need such large injectors. I can't answer that until I know what that say in HP/TQ.
Fast4s
8/6/2005 6:49:53 AM
the 1000cc injectors were a bit of an extra, naturally with 2 660cc pumps they're not going to be running at full power, they're more for show off value, the set ups sort of like the MIVEC for cruising only one pump is working and the injectors are working at low power, but on full throttle everything powers up and provides a full flow of petrol, which would drain the tank in a few minutes if I kept it up, it's designed around fuel economy, this way I can be sure that the engine won't be starved at any time, but it won't cost a heap to run either.
Prophet
8/6/2005 11:50:51 AM
How do you turn one and off the pumps?
Fast4s
8/7/2005 6:53:54 AM
It's all controlled by the engine management system, I programmed it that way
wicked_outlander
8/9/2005 10:54:39 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fast4s

It's all controlled by the engine management system, I programmed it that way

sounds like a mivec series engine...
mitsusales
1/4/2006 4:43:58 PM
Translation is 399.62 HP 378.32 lb-ft Torque. Nice well rounded power. He is using the intercooler for the twin turbo setup like some old school racers use an A/C compressor to cool the air even more then an intake will. Also use a bag of ice infront of your intake.
slow420a
1/29/2006 11:32:38 PM
This guy is for real. My friends boosted ls1 running 9's dosent even use injectors that big. Os this car much do FWD wheelies.

Carbon cams? 9200 redline? I hope you knife cut the crank, rebalanced the crank, got a windage tray, heavy duity main bearings, and a super duity valve train that can support that fast rotation.
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