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Jay Envy
3/14/2007 11:58:42 PM
Please help!  I just bought an '05 AWD Outlander.  I love it, but can't find anything for it.  The previous owner lowered with some no name springs so it bouncing around like crazy.  I like the lowered look, but need some aftermarket shocks badly!  One of the guys at the Mitsubishi dealership said that I can can use some shocks made for the evo, but not sure if I should trust him or not.  Also if you guys can point me in the right direction as far as strut bar and exhaust too, that would be great.  The only thing I found online so far is just an air intake made by Weapon R.  How good are those btw?  But my number one priority right now is to found some shocks to stop the bouncing.  Help!
Malmskov
3/15/2007 1:42:18 AM
Try to google Mitsubishi Outlander parts... 232.000 pages - search result.
 
Try fx: http://www.carpartswholesale.com/cpw_store/parts.php?make_text=mitsubishi&year=2005&model_text=outlander&ml=outl--005&my=1&cat=h
 
I don't know if they are any good...
JMC
3/15/2007 2:19:23 PM
coilovers?
 
expositor
3/16/2007 5:44:08 PM
hey jay,
good luck with your car.  i have an '06, and it's hard to find aftermarket parts.  i'd recommend the weapon-r intake, but only if you have the old-style, large honeycomb maf sensor.  if you have the probe-type like mine, you'll have to do some cutting of the airbox to mate it to the weapon-r tubing using reducers, something i did, but don't necessarily recommend.  road race motorsports has a lancer ralliart 2.4L air intake for sale which looks quite nice and should fit the 4-cyl outlander.  one of our number was going to buy one and let us know, but he hasn't posted as yet.  as for mufflers, we'd have to custom install piping to a flowmaster or one of those other performance types as nothing outlander-specific is available in the usa for us.
all i've done thus far to my car is the weapon-r intake, an underdrive pulley, a small strut tower bar, (made by road race motorsports, as was the pulley) and 17" wheels with new tires as my 16" o-e tires were not very good in wet weather.  anyway, let us know what you're doing, and again, good luck!
Jay Envy
3/18/2007 3:52:11 AM
Hey I went to the road race website.  I didn't see that they made anything specificly for the outlander.  I saw a few strut bars for the lancer.  Is that what you were talking about?  Will they fit the outlander?  I didn't know which one to order.  Please assists.  Thanks.
Jay Envy
3/18/2007 9:55:52 AM
Okay so I see that there is a road race motorsports and then there is a road race engineering.  If you guys can tell whichs parts will fit, that would be awesome.  The only thing I ordered so far are shocks since my car is already lowered. 
expositor
3/18/2007 3:14:53 PM
rrm and rre are related companies.  the outlander strut bar is not a true strut tower bar in that it only connects the two forward-most tower bolts and hasn't a firewall anchor.  the lancer and/or evo tower bars won't fit outlander as our master cylinder reservoir is in the way.  rrm's outlander bar is really only a noticeable help
on rough surfaces and it only makes a slight difference in smooth road cornering.  even so, i like having it with all these pot holes here in north jersey.  to order it, you'll have to ask them directly either by e-mail or phone, as they only catalog their lancer parts.  by the way, what  shocks did you order?  lowering the outlander an inch or so is beginning to interest me....
Jay Envy
3/18/2007 8:51:51 PM
I search the web and visited acouple auto part stores around and only found acouple of set of shocks.  I ended up getting KYB GR-2.  I read some reviews and they seem to fit my need.  Stiff enough to handle a lowered car and soft enough for everyday driving.  Thanks for the tip on ordering the strut bar.  How much do they cost?  I'm in the process of ordering some new springs as well.  The current no name springs squeaks when I up my driveway or at an akward position.  Also looking for a performance exhaust, but quiet at the same time.  Let me know if you have any suggestion.  Thanks.  I included pics of my car so you can see the outlander lowered.


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Jay Envy
3/19/2007 3:11:01 PM
Update:
 
I took your advise and called RRM to see what they have to offered.  I ended up getting pulley and the only and last strut bar they have for the outlander.  Did you notice any difference with the pulley? 
 
They do have a weapon-R intakes that was available for the outlander, but I passed on it.  What are your feelings on it since you have it?  I forgot to ask them about the aem intake for the ralliart.  I didn't want anything too loud.
 
As for now, I'm saving up money for some new Eibach springs to replace my no name ones and also a MagnaFlow exhaust.  I'll have to do custom piping but it'll have to do.  As the same with the intake, I didn't want it too loud either.  Just a good deep low tone. 
06OutlanderSE
3/20/2007 9:31:37 AM
very nice outlander, i have a 06 SE very similar.  RRM's intake for the ralliart are the shortram one that is fits our outlander perfectly with no modifications.
 
Oh and let me know how the pulley is then, i was thinking about getting one.
 
 
JMC
3/20/2007 1:24:41 PM
Looks good!
 
Jay Envy
3/21/2007 12:38:41 AM
Hopefully, I'll get the strut bar and pully and get them install before this weekend is over.  I did get some bad news though.  The place I ordered the gr-2 shocks does't have the front shocks in stock.  It's actually on a nationwide backorder.  Every place I call does not have them at all.  So I have two rear shocks coming in, and have to wait 2-3 weeks for the front ones to be available.
expositor
3/21/2007 7:31:14 PM
jay,
my feeling is the pulley frees up a little power in that the engine rev's up a little faster, and seems to give a bit more roadspeed at a given rpm; like 65 mph in 5th/od at like 2800 rpm's instead the previous 3000, though
the tac in one's instrument cluster is not all that accurate within a hundred or so rpm's, so maybe i'm kidding
myself....but it did feel a bit quicker. love your car by the way, nice wheels, and looks rather good lowered.
before you install the pulley, read their directions through, and then take my advice here:  the square hole they refer to for moving the tensioner is in a housing over and to the left of the crank pulley, right next to the tensioner itself if i remember correctly.  the other 'holes' they mention are not holes, but rings at the bottom of said housing, almost directly left of the crank pulley itself.  their directions were very sketchy in this regard, and even a phonecall to them on the saturday afternoon i did the install was not at all helpfull.  the fellow i spoke with thought the the idler up and to the right of the crank was the tensioner!  anyway, when you insert a 1/2" drive in the square hole and turn the works to the left, those rings underneath will line up so
you can then insert an allen key in there to hold the tensionser away while you work.  hopefully i made that
clear enough for you so you don't have to waste the 45 min's i did trying to make sense of their poor destructions.  after that almost futile exercise, the 'hardest' thing was the tedious task of taking apart all those plastic covers underneath and around the engine.  replacing the pulley and the belt was the easy part.
as for the air intake, if you have the large maf, the weapon-r is a direct fit, and they also even offer a nice  aluminum cold air box that fits nicely as well.  if you have the probe-type maf, then the ralliart intake might be the way to go if you don't want to piece sections of tubing together for a do-it-yourself cai. if you have that older maf, i recommend the weapon-r as it's the only custom fit for the outlander. by the way, all cone-type air intakes are loud, but it's only noticeable under acceleration inside the car; it's not that noticeable outside, unlike a free-flow muffler which the whole world can hear.
good luck and let us know how you fared, and i hope my advice re: the pulley helps....


Jay Envy
3/29/2007 12:42:40 AM
Okay got some updates.  My pulley and strut bar came in today.  My two KYB rear shocks came in yesterday as well.  Installed my strut bar, but it wasn't exactly plug and play.  Expositor how did you deal with the clutch/brake reservoir in the way?  I had to get ghetto with it and just kinda slant it alittle bit, and was able to secure it enough so it wasn't just "hanging around" with only one of the bolts, rather than two.  Looks kinda silly with it slanted the way it is, but oh well.  Let me know if you did something different.  I included a picture so you can see what I'm talking about.

I emailed KYB to see when the front shocks will be available for the outlander again, and one of the reps said he didn't know when it would....great.  So now I have two rear shocks sitting in my room collecting dusts.  As far as the pulley, it seems like it's a three hours plus job, seven hours plus for me, so I'm probably going to take it to a mechanic to install it for me.  I'm not real good with my hands.  Lol.  I'll let you know when I'm get it install.

...for some reason it's not loading the pics.  So you're going to have to just cut and paste to see some of the pics:
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JMC
3/29/2007 12:50:41 PM
Wow...the strut bar I had for my '03 Outlander came with a kit to move the reservoir down so the bar would fit nice.
 
Jay Envy
3/29/2007 3:29:04 PM
Really?! What kind of strut bar did you have for your 05? The slanted reservoir is starting to bothering me. What kind of kit was it? maybe i can duplicate it and move it out of the way from the strut bar.
JMC
3/29/2007 3:45:17 PM
I had an '03....
I got it from a company overseas who made a kit with the bar to move the res down so it wouldn't be in the way. I think it was for a Mitsubishi Airtrek (JDM Spec)
I'd look into it asap...that ghetto rig won't last or won't be safe.
Jay Envy
3/29/2007 4:25:44 PM
I was taking a look at it during lunch and it doesn't seem like it's going be a good idea for it to just kinda hang there.  Originally, I was looking at a JDM strut bar for the Airtrek, but all the websites were in japanese so I ended up just getting the RRM.  Can you tell me what the kit looked like so I can try to duplicate it, if not I might just have to use some automotive glue and just stick somewhere.  Lol...seriously.
soundcolor
3/29/2007 4:33:31 PM
forum project car...
lol
JMC
3/29/2007 5:48:35 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Jay Envy

I was taking a look at it during lunch and it doesn't seem like it's going be a good idea for it to just kinda hang there.  Originally, I was looking at a JDM strut bar for the Airtrek, but all the websites were in japanese so I ended up just getting the RRM.  Can you tell me what the kit looked like so I can try to duplicate it, if not I might just have to use some automotive glue and just stick somewhere.  Lol...seriously.

You might be able to find what the kit looks like online...I do not remember at all. It came with the strut bar. The kit lowered the res so the bar wouldn't have anything in the way.
 
expositor
3/29/2007 8:00:09 PM
hi jay,
sorry to see you had trouble with your strut bar.  mine is a bit different than yours; you can see a picture of it, well one side, but the side in question, if you search in this outlander forum under 'new wheels and tyres.'  the last post, among too many others, on page 2 of that thread is mine, with four pictures of my car; the last being a close-up underhood shot showing the weapon-r air intake and the driver side of the strut bar.  the bar rrm sold me is straight; yours is nicely bent.   however, i would recommend removing it until you get rid of your airbox as it seems to be in the way and pushing it towards your brake fluid reservoir, but it's hard to see what's really happening on that side of your bar.  that bend looks like it allows you to leave the black cover over the spark plugs; i had to remove mine to allow access with the straight bar.  as far as the pulley goes, it's really easy once you get the plastic clips and covers off, and that's easy as well, merely a bit tedious. just try to keep the pieces in some order to enable you to easily reinstall the lot.  If you take your time, it'll still be under two hours; in fact you'll take less time than i did since you won't have to call someone who knows, now, less than we; and you'll save more than a few sheckels....i'm starting to sound like that fellow on 'tricked-out'....whatever happened to that show?  anyway, take a look at the pictures i posted, they may help you.  unfortunately, i didn't think to take any of the pulley install.  had i done so, you'd see how easy it really is.  good luck whatever you decide to do, and show us some more pics!!!

Jay Envy
3/29/2007 10:23:21 PM
What's going on Expositor?!  Yeah the strut bar allows me to leave the black cover on.  But it's not the intake that that is causing the problems.  The strut bar actually clears the intake cover just fine, it's the clutch reservoir that is causing the issue.  It's just a tad too big and the strut bar is in the way for it be in it normal position.  I emailed RRM to see what they had to say about it, and they told me to just fabricate a hinge and just move the reservoir out of the way....uhhh okay, easiler said than done.  But the only way to fix is to move it...I just don't know how yet...plus I'm kinda weary of drilling holes into my firewall for a new hinge.  I'll figure something out this weekend.  Thanks for the tip on the pulley.  I'll find time to do it this weekend.  I'll post pics as well. 
expositor
3/30/2007 10:39:36 PM
it's that bend in your bar; if it's hitting the brake fluid reservoir, the bend isn't vertical, it's towards the firewall.  if you check my picture, you'll see that mine is straight from one retaining tube to the other, and therefore lies forward and a bit below the reservoir.  if you can't make a switch with rrm to the straight bar, which they made specifically for the outlander by the way, my only suggestion short of breaking the tack welds on the firewall for the reservoir bracket, is to turn the reservoir 90 degrees, whichever way those stiff rubber hoses to the master cylinder allow.  at least it could be secured with one of the bolts, with the reservoir retaining tab obviously up and over the upturned edge of the bracket with a couple of washers to shim; and if you fabricate a small metal shim/bracket extension, you could secure one end to the bracket, and the other end to the now 'flying' side of the reservoir tab again using washers as additional shims, all the while hoping that those two bolts are long enough.....at least, if i'm at all correct, it will be more secure than it looks to be now.  we first generation outlander owners are an unlucky lot when it comes to aftermarket 'upgrades.'  anyway, i know your frustration first hand; if you could find my story about the weapon-r intake install,  you might get a chuckle....good luck again, and don't give up!
Jay Envy
4/2/2007 5:21:50 PM
More Updates:
 
I finally installed the pulley over the weekend and man what a difference!  The RRM pulls is like 40% lighter and smaller than the OEM pulley.  I noticed improvement down low and in acceleration right away.  Worth every penny I paid for it.  I forgot to take pics when it was getting install, but I do have a close up pic once it was installed and I'll post it up later tonight.
 
Also, I called KYB today to get an update on my front shocks that are on backorder...and well...they are still on backorder.  But the lady @ KYB was nice enough to do some additional research for me and found a pair left out in their other warehouse.  But they are coming from Cali to New Jersey and then from New Jersey to me.  So the whole process should take about 2 weeks, which is fine since I need to save money for springs and to get them install.
Jay Envy
4/7/2007 8:54:23 PM
Okay not really an update, but finally got some pics from making a bracket to allow the installation of the strut bar and a small hard to see pics of my pulley.  Everything is coming together pretty well, the only thing about the pulley is that I noticed that when my car is idling/parking the lights are alittle dimmer, but when I rev the engine it gets brighter.  Not a big deal I guess.
 
The shiny thingy is the new pulley.

 
This is alittle bracket we made from scrap to place the reservoir away from the strut bar.
 

 
Just a pic of the engine bay.
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