K&N air filter

Has anyone installed  a K&N air filter on a 2005 XLS, if so what are the advantages if any?
Also what is the correct procedure for replacing an air filter?

Brian

K+N's, or any oiled air filter, are a double edged sword.  They allow more air into the engine, but also filter alot less effectively than conventional elements.  If you over oil them, they WILL ruin the MAF sensor.  If you under oil them they do nothing.  Since the 1st generation Outies use the same air filter as the Evo, I reccomend either THIS filter or THIS one.  They filter alot better, and don't require oiling.  They are, however, not reusable like the K+N, but can be washed every so often.  And if you stay on top of it and don't let the dirt build up, they can be kept very clean.  I ran the HKS on on my Evo for two years with the same filter, just kept it clean.

I've never experienced any noticeable benefits with a drop-in on my last 3 vehicles...Power or fuel economy.  The risks with poorer filtration and potential electronics problem just isn't worth it.
 
If you figure that the air filter allows enough air for an Evo, it should alow more than enough air for the Outlander
 

Thanks for your advice.

Funny, it sounds like you are actually ignoring my advice, but to each his own.

I agree with the points your raised and they are well known. However, i dont think thats reason enough not to buy a K&N filter. Not sure i agree about the less filtration efficiency. If you can find a tech write up by a company stating that, i would love to see it.
 
You wont feel any gains from a filter on ANY car. If anyone tells you different they are BS-ing.
 
Yes, if you do totally saturate the filter in oil it will ruin the MAF. But that is your fault, not the filters.

No I agree it is the users fault.  To allow more flow there has to be a sacrifice in filtration.  You cannot have both.  However, perhaps I was a bit harsh in saying alot less effective filtration.  Effectively the "Holes" in the filtration material have to be larger to allow more air to flow through.  The filter really does nothing in an oiled element.  The oil does nearly all the filtration.  I also don't agree that a filter element adds no gains.  I have seen them on a dyno.  It may not be raw HP or torque numbers, but maybe a HP or two (which could be accounted to anything, temperature etc.), but you do see slightly faster engine response.  And these companies claim fuel economy increase also, which makes sense (if the engine breathes easier it works less hard).  Either way, if you can clean a $40 dollar filter rather then replace a $30 filter, it pays for itself that way.

Im glad we are in agreement.
 
Yeah you will see one or 2 numbers on the dyno... i have seen that too. But you wont actually feel it.

You won't feel the couple of HP, but on my Evo the engine response was noticable over the factory element.  Also you could really hear the BOV, and that has to be worth something

Well i have heard exactly that before.
 
You should stick around

Here's a test comparing different filters using an ISO test
 
http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
 
This is for filters on GM diesels, but results should be similar...and in general better flow means less efficient filtration

It looks like 2nd Gen Outlanders use the same airfilter as the Evo 9.  The Ralliart and BMC filters look good.  A magazine found 0-7 Hp gain/Dyno with an Evo 8 using a K&N, but is it worth the loss in filtering ability? 
I'll try to find the info links.
 
Thanks!

heya, thanks a lot for your advice on drop-in filters Evoracer!
I didn't know there were alternatives to the wet-type of high-flow panel filters. That HKS sounds very decent to me.
I think I'll search a filter like that when it's time to replace the stock airfilter in my Outti. It won't be easy to find HKS products over here in Belgium or nearby countries, but we'll see.
I also noticed that Blitz makes dry-type drop-in airfilters that fit the Evo..

Regards

Import Tuner Article on Evo 9/K&N:
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/powerpages/0701_impp_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_mr/kn_air_filter.html
(Oh sorry +5 HP/5500 rpm and +12 HP/redline!)
 
WORKS Air Filter sounds great!
http://www.worksevo.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=133
(But "Out of Stock".)
 

The Fram site...
Shows the same air filter number for the Evoloution and 07 Outlander 3.0, V6...

Maybe it's an error?
 
Sorry tried to attach the link, but it didn't work.
 
Have a great holiday weekend!

Hi, I've replaced my stock air filter with a Ralliart Sports Air Filter: Urethane form type (RA188657S3), a month ago.
It's expensive, but I noticed a difference; the engine revs up a little smoother, it feels like it has gained a little bit more torque in the lower RPM's.
It also seems like I have to press the pedal a little less hard to keep a stable speed, certainly at highway speeds.

But I'm comparing to the stock air filter which had been used for 14000km, it looked little dirty, I also noticed that the performance had dropped a little bit in the last months.
In any case the gains will be very minimal compared to a new OEM air filter, as already said in this thread by others.

Fuel economy hasn't changed much, perhaps a little worse.
Lastly, intake sound is more like when the car was new, but it's hard to tell the difference since I already had the OEM Sport Exhaust with twin endpipes (made by Remus by the way). The exhaust is not loud but I can hear the difference, certainly when releasing the clutch pedal, and a low rpm.
Cheers and happy holidays!

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ORIGINAL: evoracer

K+N's, or any oiled air filter, are a double edged sword.  They allow more air into the engine, but also filter alot less effectively than conventional elements.  If you over oil them, they WILL ruin the MAF sensor.  If you under oil them they do nothing.  Since the 1st generation Outies use the same air filter as the Evo, I reccomend either THIS filter or THIS one.  They filter alot better, and don't require oiling.  They are, however, not reusable like the K+N, but can be washed every so often.  And if you stay on top of it and don't let the dirt build up, they can be kept very clean.  I ran the HKS on on my Evo for two years with the same filter, just kept it clean.

Evoracer can both of the recommended filters fit my Outy turbo '06 without any modifications???