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ntx
1/23/2007 1:07:38 AM
any thoughts on the manual-auto transmission planned for the X?
 

 
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=4452
Sebba
1/23/2007 1:09:30 AM
I hate anythnig that dosent have 3 pedals.. in my mind it is defective!
 
5 Spd all the way!
EMonz57
1/23/2007 8:31:27 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sebba

I hate anythnig that dosent have 3 pedals.. in my mind it is defective!

5 Spd all the way!
to bad its been proven to far out perform a 5spd 6spd tranny.  It shifts insanely fast.  take it or leave it they will be faster.  just like the supras.   In the supra world if you want a fast car you buy and auto plain an simple  you would be suprised actually how many people swap the 6 spds out for an auto
GotBoost
1/23/2007 5:31:26 PM
My last car was an auto and although it is always consistent at shift points and firmness and you dont have to worry about driver error, it take the fun factor out of owning a sport car or any type of car for that matter. After getting my evo and finally driving a manual car besides my motorcyle, I will never go back to an auto vehicle unless I have no other choice.
F.O.G.
1/23/2007 5:47:44 PM
Plus, what about if you want to launch it? My son has a 3G Eclpise with a stage III RIPP supercharger. It has the Mitsu sporttronic tranny and although it puts down some good power. You can't get it off the line like a standard no matter what you try. Will owners have to swap ijn a race torque converter to make it go?
EMonz57
1/23/2007 6:16:18 PM
they are are paddle shifted the trannys are better than the sportronic.   the sporty trany is a POS it robs ALOT of power and shifts horible.  the paddle shifters shift faster than you could even imagine and the EVO im sure will have some thing to get it up and out of the whole.  Alot of autos can out launch manuals.  they can launch it into boost with out a 2 step
Sebba
1/23/2007 7:18:23 PM
I wouldnt mind that perticular auto trans only because it has a twin clutch system. one clutch for 1st, 3rd and 5th gear... and the other for 2nd, 4th and 6th... that way there is instant gear shifting... and it has a computer that is supposed to predict if you are going to shift up or down depending on how your braking, rate of deceleration etc... so just incase you need to downshift... the gear below is right there when you need it and there is no downshift delay.
 
However... i just like my third pedal.. and thats just me.
GotBoost
1/23/2007 10:08:55 PM
I had a 3000stall in my oher car and that was great, before I had that installed I had the stocker which was like only 1500rpms or something like that, when I took it to the track I couldnt launch it above 1800 because it would start spinning the tires, but with the 3000 omg, the car was freakin crazy off the line. But stock I couldnt even sqweek the tires from a dead stock and flooring it, even brake torque'n it. But for the evo X even if it does have a higher stall they wont go crazy on it because of the TC that we all have come to know and love, no way will they put a high stall.
EMonz57
1/23/2007 10:26:18 PM
huh?  have you not  heard of a 2 step?  the EVOs now use 2 step to launch it is like a 5000-7000 stall what ever you want it at.  the car rev limits hard at whih ever RPM you pick and it builds boost and you take off out of the whole at like 14 PSI.  the T case takes it well.  the TC is not as bad as everyone thinks it is.   I mean there are 500HP EVOs making 10 sec passes on them so how bad can they be.  It is mainly driving style that kills them if you drop the clutch youll drop your TC after a while.
F.O.G.
1/24/2007 12:03:53 PM
The FOG mobile is goin back in on Feb 9th. I'll let you know how strong the transfer case is when she comes back I'm hoping my next investment is not a tow truck . LOL  Emonz 57, I'll have some pricing for you in mid Feb. if your still interested.
 
I think GotBoost is talking about the "stall" of the torque converter on an auto car
RMUDBUGS
1/24/2007 12:07:37 PM
I think it's great!  I can findly drive an Evo.  If GOD wanted you to have 3 pedals he would have given you 3 feet.
EMonz57
1/24/2007 2:18:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: RMUDBUGS

I think it's great!  I can findly drive an Evo.  If GOD wanted you to have 3 pedals he would have given you 3 feet.
are you disabled?  is that what prevents you to drive a EVO now?  if not then I dont wanna hear it go learn lol.
 
 
FOG yea gie me prives when you can.   I know gotboost was talking bout a hi stall for an auto.  I was just replying with wehave the same type deal with the 2 step
RMUDBUGS
1/24/2007 3:24:25 PM
I don't have a stick so I don't drive stick.  I would hate to have to learn on a new car.  I would not want a standard as a daily driver. 
EMonz57
1/24/2007 4:04:58 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: RMUDBUGS

I don't have a stick so I don't drive stick.  I would hate to have to learn on a new car.  I would not want a standard as a daily driver. 
then I dont want to hear it. lol
 
stick is easier to drive in snow,  it is better on the motor (if your drive normal) it is better on the drivetrain and it is very easy to learn and drive.  seriously took me like an hour and I could drive a stick.  Granted an EVO is not my first but still.
RMUDBUGS
1/24/2007 5:08:36 PM
I'm sure I could learn but I'm lazy.  lol  My point was that this option opens the Evo up to a whole new group of people, those to lazy to drive a stick(i.e. me).
GotBoost
1/24/2007 5:29:09 PM
My evo is my first manual car, and I love it. Actually the evo is pretty easy to learn on, after I got the evo and then drove some of my friends cars that were stick, some are harder to drive than others, teh clutch on the evo is so easy to get a good feel for it, on my buddys rx-8 the clutch was pretty much on or off, the car had barely any in between. Not to get off topic but heres a little funny story, when i went to get my evo I had never driven a stick car before, so when I got there I said before I do anything I wasnt a test drive first...lol
Well they brough the car out and I got in and tried to drive it....well I killed it 2 times before he asked if I knew how to drive stick, I told him nope I dont know how but im gonna learn with you in it...lol then I finally got going, that sales I think **** himself twice with me driving lol. After the test drive I came home with a used 05 with only 2000miles. By the time I got gas and drove home I had no problems with stalling out the car and I was shifting it pretty good. I just thought this was a good story for you guys
EMonz57
1/24/2007 6:27:12 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: RMUDBUGS

I'm sure I could learn but I'm lazy.  lol  My point was that this option opens the Evo up to a whole new group of people, those to lazy to drive a stick(i.e. me).
those type of people should not be driving a car that requires a very active owner then.  the car is a maintenace HORSE it costs alot and is always needing maintanece.  so if your  lazy to shift a car then I can see where the cars life is gonna end up
RMUDBUGS
1/24/2007 6:55:08 PM
I work at a dealer so dropping it off for maintance would not be a problem.  I did not want to buy one but just drive one for the experance.  Though it would be fun the have one for a 2nd car to play with on the weekends, but I could not afford that.
EMonz57
1/24/2007 8:03:08 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: RMUDBUGS

I work at a dealer so dropping it off for maintance would not be a problem.  I did not want to buy one but just drive one for the experance.  Though it would be fun the have one for a 2nd car to play with on the weekends, but I could not afford that.
the car is an experience lol.  I dont drive mine everyday.  It is sitting untill good weather and it is expensive to do so but its for the best
Sebba
1/24/2007 8:35:42 PM
IMO anyone that dont know how to drive a stick.. and dont want to... is not a car enthusiast.
F.O.G.
1/24/2007 10:15:03 PM
Wait a minute........don't we all have 3 feet.  two on the ends of our legs and the 12"....oh...never mind
GotBoost
1/24/2007 10:41:02 PM
Domesticboy
1/24/2007 11:12:43 PM
This system is going to be a joke.  It will probably have a huge delay in shifts, in both auto and manual mode.  It will probably also slip the clutch like a bitch between shifts to make the car smoother, resulting in lots of clutch wear.
 
They'll porbably put some kind of launch control on it to, so you can tell the ECU to drop the autmated clutch at 7K for a hard launch.  Then after its burns up in 3 runs, you can pay $4K to have a new one installed.  Mitsu, always coming up with new ways to make cars ****tier.
Sebba
1/24/2007 11:32:00 PM
WRONG **** stick. Read my post ****er. Try actually knowing the facts before you make retarded statements.
 
We dont go on your forums and talk random **** so why do it here?
ntx
1/25/2007 3:30:22 AM
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ORIGINAL: Domesticboy

This system............................


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