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djcrew
1/4/2008 5:39:34 PM
Hey guys. I'm sure there is already a thread somewhere in here about this, but i'm not gonna look forever to find it... Just curious what are some good mods to start with. Not goin for all the power in the world, just a little gain is good, but most of all mpg. I drive this car 156 miles back and forth to work every day and i want the best fuel economy i can get, along with a few ponies too...
Im sure intake and exhaust are the two big ones to start with. I've always been a fan of K&N. Anybody have any objections?
The exhaust i don't have a clue about. I haven't done anything with imports so i don't know what good for them. Thinkin maybe borla or something like that? I want something high quality that's gonna help the motor, and sound GREAT!!! I don't want that "pissed off lawn mower" sound...
Thanks again for all the help and suggestions!!!
If you're looking to maximize your mpg, get a hybrid.
djcrew
1/5/2008 7:01:29 AM
Ok, well that includes spending a lot more money and buyin another vehicle, which i need like a hole in the head...
I didn't ask for ideas on other vehicles, i asked for ideas on the vehicle i HAVE. Anybody else that wants to pitch in would be appreciated.
Thanks again
TheEngineer
1/5/2008 8:47:57 AM
other than intake, exhaust, headers, there isnt much you can do on a non-turbo car. And yes this has been discussed over and over. It not like it would have taken time to do a search. I found topics in like 30 seconds.
djcrew
1/5/2008 1:57:56 PM
Ok. Wow. Didn't know you guys are so eager to help on here... I did look a little and found a few things, but didn't find all that much.
BTW, my car is a turbo model.
Thanks for all the help...
TheEngineer
1/5/2008 2:04:06 PM
ok well if its a turbo that is a whole different thing. The reason we get annoyed sometimes is this car has been aound for years and these types of small questions are asked almost once a week. So it just gets repetitive. But the other thing i would do to start off is a MBC and a boost gauge. Then run about 15psi on that, youll feel a noticable difference. From there you can go with a new fuel pump and Hard pipe the IC piping. Then you can run alittle more boost. After that you start to get into a turbo upgrade and the cost starts to go up
djcrew
1/5/2008 2:11:29 PM
I understand that it gets repetitive and i don't blame ya on that. I would just much rather get a thread like this and be able to ask questions as i go. Helps me a bunch. Sorry for the inconvienence...
A boost controller is a big help huh? Like i said, i've never had anything to do with imports so i don't know the first thing. Will that help with power and fuel economy or more just power? And how expensive are they? And what are a couple good brands?
Again, sorry that you've gone through this a million times, but i DO appreciate any help i can get!
TheEngineer
1/5/2008 2:30:57 PM
Yea a MBC will help alot because your car only runs about 10-12psi and that extra 3-5psi will see a large increase. With any increase in power of course will cause a small decrease in fuel economy however that the price you pay for power. But with just the MBC its gonna be almost negligable. The cost can average from $20-$100 depending on the quality you go with. The couple of name brands that are proven to work well are these
The Joe P xz MBC which is only $45 is nice
http://www.joepmbc.com/mbc.html Dejon MBC Shown third down for $50 (comes with a mounting bracket)
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclgages.htm Hallman MBC
http://www.dsmparts.com/customer/product.php?productid=434&cat=10&page=1 To me i like the Joe P the best out of them since there are so many people that use them and love them.
And to go with that, get yourself a bov from a 1g dsm. Your stock plastic pos won't hold over 13 psi succesfully.
TheEngineer
1/5/2008 3:09:46 PM
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ORIGINAL: Rob
And to go with that, get yourself a bov from a 1g dsm. Your stock plastic pos won't hold over 13 psi succesfully.
good call.
djcrew
1/5/2008 6:09:35 PM
Great! Thanks guys.
lhausi2
1/5/2008 6:10:59 PM
That's a good site and theengineers favorite site,lol he refers everything to that site, but that's the way to go get a mbc,intake,exhaust,you can always upgrade ic and piping, that always gives u some ponies
You won't want a fmic while using that stock turbo.
djcrew
1/6/2008 9:36:12 AM
fmic? Don't know all the lingo yet so bear with me...
lhausi2
1/6/2008 4:47:16 PM
it stands for front mount intercooler, and can I ask why not to use an upgraded one with the stock turbo? jw cuz never heard anything about it
Sebba
1/6/2008 4:55:55 PM
Its because the little T25 doesnt flow well enough, to the point where the added cooling gets canceled out by the T25's inability to push the air through it. Think about an athsmatic child blowing through a straw, and you get the T25.
lhausi2
1/6/2008 6:08:34 PM
gotcha that actually makes sense,lol but you can still upgrade the piping,right? or is it not gunna do anything or just gunna do the same as a ic? i got the ic thing from a writeup i saw about an evo,that's why i said it,lol
Sebba
1/6/2008 6:12:22 PM
You can do the piping.. but if you plan to do a FMIC in the future, i wouldnt bother.
lhausi2
1/6/2008 6:34:41 PM
yeah that's tru, i got a greddy fmic in my car, with a big 16g. is the 16g much bigger than a t25? Also, do you know where I could get just the pipe with the bov fitting on it. cuz mine was hacked together and doesn't really fit
Sebba
1/6/2008 7:15:13 PM
Thats called the upper intercooler pipe.
Yes, the 16g really is that much bigger.
I dont really get what your asking... you say you have a FMIC... but you need that pipe for some reason?
lhausi2
1/6/2008 7:21:54 PM
yeah i need the uic because whoever put in the fmic and the piping hacked it in. and the plate where the bov goes isn't made for my eclipse. The bov sat on the plate and the screws are bent to the outside, cuz the plates just a lil bit too small and hits the piping beneath it. so it's leaking like a bastard thru there. and the previous owner just put silicone around it which worked for a lil bit but once it got to the bov it kept sticking the bov open
TheEngineer
1/7/2008 8:22:46 AM
lhausi2
1/7/2008 9:09:47 AM
it's weird mine doesn't look like that. on my car the flange is halfway down the uic pipe. it looks like the greddy kit they sell on there. and all i can find is the whole kit for $209. Which i might just end up doing if i can't find just the single one
TheEngineer
1/7/2008 9:35:35 AM
can you post a picture of your engine bay
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