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rdenis
3/27/2007 10:49:38 AM
Yeah I agree with Soundcolor on this.  I am looking for a way to interrupt the signal to switch views - I have the wiring diagrams now so hopefully I can figure something out.
JMC
3/27/2007 1:48:29 PM
To use the camera you use the AUX part on the Navi screen. The wiring has to be done so you can watch DVDs while driving and use the camera as needed.
rdenis
3/27/2007 4:06:54 PM
Okay, upon further review of the MMCS schematics, the MMCS has a separate line network for the rear camera.  It does not run through the CAN Box.  It should recognize the signal when input to the appropriate connector.  It also appears the interrupt is built into the circuit, which means the MMCS should display the camera view when reverse gear is engaged.
 
As for my satellite radio adventures, I may have hit the showstopper - all the ETACS-ECU's are coded at the factory and one of the codings is vehicle destination which means, it is possible (maybe even probable) that Canadian headunits will never be able to recognize a sat radio tuner, even with Mit's $5,000 scan tool.  Its not a dead issue yet but its close.
 
I will keep you posted.
JMC
3/27/2007 4:11:27 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: rdenis

Okay, upon further review of the MMCS schematics, the MMCS has a separate line network for the rear camera.  It does not run through the CAN Box.  It should recognize the signal when input to the appropriate connector.  It also appears the interrupt is built into the circuit, which means the MMCS should display the camera view when reverse gear is engaged.

As for my satellite radio adventures, I may have hit the showstopper - all the ETACS-ECU's are coded at the factory and one of the codings is vehicle destination which means, it is possible (maybe even probable) that Canadian headunits will never be able to recognize a sat radio tuner, even with Mit's $5,000 scan tool.  Its not a dead issue yet but its close.

I will keep you posted.

Sounds right to me dood...............
antlip
3/27/2007 11:24:55 PM
I dont understand why everyone needs a back up camera? Are we spying on the people behind us at red lights?
rcpax
3/27/2007 11:47:16 PM
It's not really a need but more a "want". It can never be a substitute to turning your head and look. It just add another safety feature for you to see what's beneath your vehicles rear way below the line of sight. And while we're at it, let's do it in style and have the signal displayed on the screen, wouldn't that be nice. Now only if mitsu offered original parts, this wouldn't be much of a challenge.
rdenis
3/28/2007 1:58:09 AM
Its cool and as I noted in another post, at first I thought it was a gimmick, then I got used to it in our 06 Odyssey, now I find myself constantly glancing to the Nav Screen when I back up, but alas, it is not there....
antlip
3/28/2007 7:10:16 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: rcpax

It's not really a need but more a "want". It can never be a substitute to turning your head and look. It just add another safety feature for you to see what's beneath your vehicles rear way below the line of sight. And while we're at it, let's do it in style and have the signal displayed on the screen, wouldn't that be nice. Now only if mitsu offered original parts, this wouldn't be much of a challenge.

 
I was just making a joke. Has anyone did research on the pioneer back up cameras. Since they have some made just for indash dvd player screens?
soundcolor
3/28/2007 8:55:29 AM
Damn straight... there might be some hot chick, with enormous cleavage, changing her shirt....
 
uhhhhhhhhhhhooooohhhhhhh.... clllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
rcpax
3/28/2007 10:12:21 AM
Or it could be your dog, cat, and worst, kids. I've heard horror stories about it, and I personally ran over my puppy a few years back. I'm glad the poor thing didn't die, and just suffered leg fractures. Although I would agree the Outlander has a bigger field of view compared to my wife's 03 CR-V, but still, there's a good amount of space below the rear glass we can't see. But well, I haven't really "wanted" it but just the thought of adding it is nice, since that
could be possible.
rdenis
3/28/2007 10:42:14 AM
They are good cameras - damn expensive but good.  JMC has one.
JMC
3/28/2007 1:14:29 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: rdenis

They are good cameras - damn expensive but good.  JMC has one.

First...the only reason I hooked one up is because I already had one from my old Navi. The Pioneer unit is great and you should be able to find one at a great price. Getting it put in is another story...$$
Here's one on EBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-ND-BC2-UNIVERSAL-REAR-VIEW-BACKUP-CAMERA-NEW-07_W0QQitemZ220095984501QQcategoryZ48605QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 
rdenis
3/28/2007 1:20:33 PM
That's a good price - I've seen them well over $200
JMC
3/28/2007 2:11:19 PM
it looks great too...probably one of the best I've seen from Pioneer.
 
soundcolor
3/28/2007 2:17:23 PM
pioneer makes good stuff...
JMC
3/28/2007 2:24:56 PM
Best Navi I've had
antlip
3/28/2007 4:50:52 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: rcpax

Or it could be your dog, cat, and worst, kids. I've heard horror stories about it, and I personally ran over my puppy a few years back. I'm glad the poor thing didn't die, and just suffered leg fractures. Although I would agree the Outlander has a bigger field of view compared to my wife's 03 CR-V, but still, there's a good amount of space below the rear glass we can't see. But well, I haven't really "wanted" it but just the thought of adding it is nice, since that
could be possible.

 
 
Now you wont have an excuse when you flatten a neighbors yappy dog or like you said their annoying kid playing in your driveway.
 
What happen to the good old days when people looked before they backed up? Technology is making us sooooo lazy.
 
 
 
soundcolor
3/28/2007 7:03:20 PM
Dude, this one time, I was at my parents, and they had just gotten a new kitten. well I went to leave, had my middle daughter in the car, and all the sudden I heard this nasty clump, clump, grind noise... Looked in my rear-view, saw the kittin flying though the air... My daughter freaked... LOL, pretty funny now though...
antlip
3/28/2007 7:29:57 PM
Seems like your going to need back up cameras in front of you under you and on top of the car. I once hit a dog driving but he ran in the road when I was doing 25. He was smaller than a cat.
soundcolor
3/28/2007 7:38:59 PM
LOL, I know right...
sbessel
4/3/2007 11:40:15 AM
I just picked up my loaded '07 Outlander this weekend, and a backup camera is high on my list.  I refuse to pay someone else a boat load of cash to install it.  I have tons of electonics experience, and have no issues tearing into my dash, or cutting into wires.
 
What ever happened with this?  Did we find out which wires to connect the camera to?  I don't have access to schematics, and I would hate to fry something trying things...
 
thanks!
 
Scott
soundcolor
4/3/2007 11:58:32 AM
not to my knowledge...
Maybe you can be the guinie pig
JMC
4/3/2007 12:33:07 PM
I had it done for me...so I have no idea.
sbessel
4/3/2007 1:23:54 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: JMC

I had it done for me...so I have no idea.

 
So it comes on automatically with reverse, correct?
 
You used the Pioneer camera?
 
Are you happy with the performance?
 
Have you used any other stock systems?
 
Thanks!
 
Scott
JMC
4/3/2007 2:26:05 PM
The Pioneer works great....I've seen some stock cameras and they seem to be the same.
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