Need some advice

Hey guys. I have a problem that im facing rite now. Well i have a 2003 evo 8 rite now and its only 5 speed rite. well all of my friends have 6 speed cars like rsx type s,celica gts, s2000, and 06 si. They plan on makin a team with only 6 speed cars rite. well my car is the fastest outa all of them rite now but its only 5 speed. I plan on buyin a 2006 evo mr cus its a six speed and i love my evo. other than that, my second choice is a subaru sti. Or ive heard about the new evo 10 thats comin out in march 2008. should i wait for that? What should i do, should i trade my evo 8 for a evo mr, or sti, or that new evo10, or should i jus keep my car. Your advice would be appreciated.

Keep the dang 5 speed. Tell them their club is retarded because 5 speed is better than the 6 anyways lol.

hmm yeah thats what i thought. So even if i get the evo mr, it wouldnt make too much difference from the one i have now rite.

seriously the 6 speed is useless. lol

aight man. thanks for the advise. like i said, they all have six speed but i still ended up beatin them. but hey, you know when i race them from a dead stop, like where we had to launch, i always beat them but one time when me and my buddy who was drivin the rsx type s, we were rollin about 20 miles per hour rite, and we both floored the gas pedal on the third honk and i went ahead of him about almost a whole car but his third gear kicked in and he went passed me. and dont get me wrong, ive raced alot of times already so i know how race my car and he does also. so i did a researched on evo and rsx and what i found out was the rsx has a higher end than the evo is that rite. jus wanted to know if that was true. and remember we was rollin 20 miles per hour and he beated me but from a launch, he couldnt beat me.

He beat you from a roll? Are you serious? I cant explain that

Hmm yeah i know thats weird. but when i drove his car, i knew that his car couldnt launch as well as mine (of course evo has great launch) but when i was going 20 miles per hour, and i was on second gear and then i floored the gas pedal and redline it and swithced to third gear, it pulled alot but i can feel that it wasnt as strong as mine but what i notice is that you stay longer on the third gear and fourth gear on a rsx type s than u would on the evo. and i can seriously feel that his car has high end more than mine do. we're both not stock but jus lightly modded. hes runnin 14s and im runnin 12s. like i said before, on a launch i would beat him, but on a roll, he would beat me. and we're both good drivers and we shift pretty well.

I dont think your runnin 12s bro. And his car is most likely running 16s

First of all.. you obviously dont have enough car knowledge nor do your buddies.  the 6 spd in the MR esspecially is useless.  The MR tranny is JUNK they break very very easily and think about this for one second,  In a race your 5 spd passes a 1\4 mile in 4th gear a 6spd MR or STi you pass in 5th.  What does that mean?   It means you waiste time shifting one extra gear.  Ever notice that the MR is slower every time with equal mods,  The STi is the same thing.  On top of that your car compaired to all your pals has BY A VERY LONG SHOT the most potencial even over the STi.   The only cars that get a good geared 6spd are the high end cars  I E vettes vipers supras ect ect you know the 'Real' cars.  Because short geared 6 spds are only good in autox or road course.   long geard like high end cars are better for highway and Daily driving

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ORIGINAL: Sebba

I dont think your runnin 12s bro. And his car is most likely running 16s

The Evo is prob not a 12 sec car,  lets here the mods.   The RSX is not a 16 sec car it is a 14 sec car.  Sebba come on now.  The RSX is one of the best hondas to mod potencail wise on a stock motor.  they hit high 13s with bolt ons and hondata. 
 
I am honestly chalking this up to the driver no offence to you but there is no way his car should have better top end over a turbo car.  Yes your gears are shorter that is not a huge deal.  you realize your powerband doesnt end at 7k right?  you can safely pull it up to 7400 as it is.  With cams and head studs you can pull it to like 7900.  That makes a huge difference, and without a video we cant expalin the only thing it points at is bad driving unless we know mods of each car.  My Evo when I was on the stock turbo would freaking smoke the hell out of those things,  I raced a Civic that was turbo and I have exhaust and intake thats it and I made him look stupid I put like 4 cars on him

Well yeah, here's a list of mods that i have on my car. K&N Intake, Greddy exhaust, stage 2 intercooler, and stage 2 clutch. thats about it on what i have on power upgrades. And my buddy's rsx type s only has a aem V2 intake and exhaust. but yeah my car has way more horses than his and on a launch i would get him by like four cars on quarter mile. and on a roll like 40 miles per hour, when we both floored the gas pedal, my car would actually pull him by one car but once he gets in his third gear, he would pull up closer and closer and on his fourth, he would pass me. We both started on second gear. the same thing happen when we switched cars where i would drive his and he would drive mine and the same exact thing happen. he would go up a little when we floored the gas but as soon i hit third in his car, i would come up closer and closer. the same thing. i can seriously feel the difference between the gears on both cars. u stay longer on third and fourth gear on the rsx than u would on the evo.

Well your mods you Deff not a 12 sec car.  Prob closer to a mid 13 sec car.  which explains why he is able to hang with you

The only mods really working for you right now is the exhaust,  The IC is not doing to much for you on a stock turbo since the stock IC is more than enough for stock boost.  the Intake adds you nothing at this point in your mods as well.  and a Stage 2 clutch is nothing to me unless your talking about spec stage clutches which I assume you would have said that??
 
A 03 Evo stock only runs low 14s and some freaks that hit high 13s.   Unless you have a boost controller and a flashed Ecu there is no way in hell your prob running better than a 13.5 and even that might be a stretch.  Of course there are alot of things that make a difference too but im just basing off of you info provided here.
 
 
Just for a little prospective  I have $10k into my motor.  My car ran a 12.3@115 MPH.  The MPH says my shifting was slow and launch was average at best because 115MPH is good to hit 12.0  Again I have a flash, cams, 5otrim turbo upgrade, ect ect ect LOTS of mods.  granted I have a few things that are causeing my car to be slower than it should.   My setup should hit 11.8 at 119 MPH when tuned and running perfect.   My tune below par and I have a vented BOV killing me and average driving.   But still I have a 400HP evo and I run 12s.

yea all my buddies have 6 speed cars also, rsx type s and 08 civic si 350z and so on. And i'm still about to buy a 5 speed evo, because the 6 speed is weak, and was the worst idea for the evo XI. If i were you, i'd wait for the evo X to come out if you really want a 6 speed car. but that's just my opinion. But still i'd buy a 5 speed evo anyday over an evo mr
 

Good advice right there ^^^
 
Either way i would wait for the EVO X. When it comes out, the price of the others are going to fall big time, and if you have enough cash by then you might be able to get the X anyways.

so the evo x isnt a bad car. ive heard they weighed a bit more than the evos that we had now. i do love my evo rite now but i really wanted a stock car that i can upgrade it with the parts that i want. i was plannin to do some upgrades to my evo 8 rite now but if it is best to wait and get the evo x, then i should save the money that i have rite now for that car. or should i just keep my evo 8 and mod it.

keep the VIII it can be faster as of right now since it is proven to go very close to 7 sec 1\4s youll never build a car that fast anyway.  and the Evo x is more of a handling car.  it will corner 1000x better but it is heavier so it will be slower slightly unless they add a bit more HP

it was made more for handling, and besides, it's the first evo not to come out with the 4g63(right mike?lol), so it'll take a while for performance parts to come out for the evo x, like it does for all the cars, and the parts are gunna costway more, and no1 will know off the bat, what it can handle, until someone does it and blows it up,lol

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ORIGINAL: lhausi2

it was made more for handling, and besides, it's the first evo not to come out with the 4g63(right mike?lol), so it'll take a while for performance parts to come out for the evo x, like it does for all the cars, and the parts are gunna costway more, and no1 will know off the bat, what it can handle, until someone does it and blows it up,lol

I will bet it will handle ALOT and I will bet parts will come out pretty damn fast.  Yes they are losing the 4g63 iron block and going to a 4B11 all alluminum block which is a scary but not to bad.  the handling of the X will blow the VIII and IX out of the water since it will now introduce to the u.s.  S-YAW controll which all teh FQ version euro Evos had and they could out lambos and lotus' which are some of the best handling cars in the world.

oh yeah, i've heard about the fq's, isn't it called the fq400, which looks like the evo VIII and XI, except less power and worse handling? And yeah i heard the evo X will handle way better, and we'll see how fast parts come out. And does anyone know if they're beefing up the tranny a little bit better, which i could imagine they would. So we'll prolly see the evo X in the autoX scene.
this is where i saw the fq400, and they got the fq 320 or fq 260,(and the number behind the fq is for how much bhp it has) not bad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZWJjC648I (don't watch the part were they do the top gear run, cuz they do it with an mr which we all kno after this thread sux, so if they did that test with an evo VIII or evo XI SE it woulda been totally different) and if they did that test with emonz's evo that thing woulda been behind by a mile

the FQ400 is the most powerful best handling Evo to date.  the 400 is the BHP yes.  ase are the 300 and 320 versions

320 and 340....
 
Wow i corrected you on something about EVOs... no way lol

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ORIGINAL: Sebba

320 and 340....

Wow i corrected you on something about EVOs... no way lol

I never lived in the UK so go figure.  Im used to the BR300 and BR330.  same idea

there's also a 260 i think,no?

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ORIGINAL: lhausi2

there's also a 260 i think,no?

stock yea lol.   I think the base is 280 or somethng like that