Problem? Air? Oil? Exhaust? - Page 3

My catch can cost more than those fuel filters btw agallardo. Just to let you know. If you are trying to save here and there...that would be one to save on, I got mine because I wanted something different and had money to spend. Mine is also like a "T", the bottom of the T is where the filter is and the top part is obviously the in/out nipples. A FRAM fuel filter is simple --D-- is what it looks like. It's up to you though. I got mine in the section where the air tools and air compressors are.

Alright now i am a little confused. You have an air tank filter.... (I dont even know what to say)........ uh.... alrighty, so that would obviously work. So whats the difference between that air tank filter and a oil catch can. They basically do the same thing, right? And also, what do you think about a breather instead? I obviously have to put something there that would keep that oil out? I would much rather spend the money and not just put something thats not gonna help me out too much....

Well, a breather filter will just allow that oil to spew all over the engine bay, there's no way to stop that unless you cover the filter...then, there's no point in that and since you may be having some big blow by issues, you don't want a breather filter. If oil is coming from the valve cover and going down the intake tract and gumming it up can you imagine how the engine bay will look after a little drive to work and back again?
Yes, it's an air compressor filter, does the same thing as a fuel filter. It's easier on the eyes is all.
I still suggest getting a fuel filter just like this one from autozone for now. I'd like for you to see how bad the blow by might be. No need to be fancy at this stage of the troubleshooting process.

Alrighty, let me get this straight. In other words you are saying that I should buy that now just to see if its bad? So I wouldnt keep it in my car 'forever,' I would just keep it for the time being just to find out how bad the oil problem is. And once I figure out how bad it is, I can resolve the problem with something else? Is this what you are saying?

Correct

Ok... well what do you have? You are using that air tank filter, right? How long have you had it in there? In other words, this doesnt really 'filter' the oil (or should i say fix my problem)???

By the way, that FRAM fuel filter you posted, is that universal? Or do I have search for one made for my car?

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None of these filters will fix your problem if you have bad blow by. You need to assess, how bad the oil flow is from the breather valve to the IC piping is first in YOUR car. Why are you fixating on MY filter? That fuel filter is not being used as a fuel filter...do you get that? It is being used as an air filter of sorts...do you get that? That means that the FRAM fuel filter is not made for our mitsubishi cars, it's not universal, it's probably made for a certain car....we are using it for another purpose. Just as long as ANY filter that you get doesn't have huge in/out nipples so that they can fit on YOUR breather valve hose...use it.
Stop going on tangents and focusing on stuff that is just taking more time.

BUY FRAM FUEL FILTER, USE COMMON SENSE WHEN DOING THIS. PUT IT ON BREATHER VALVE TUBE. DRIVE IT, TELL US HOW MUCH OIL IS IN THE FILTER.
Simple as that....now either go and do it, or keep the oil in your IC piping. No more questions....go do it. If you need more help, there's a couple links for you to go by. They have pictures which = a thousand words.

So instead of me using up my money on that fuel filter... why cant I just use a coke bottle and connect it to the valve cover instead? then drive it around and find out how bad that oil problem is.... Its doing the same thing, right?

As long as you have a way to stop the oil from going in one side of the coke bottle and out the other and right into the system again. That's what the filter element in there will do.

Also I have been skimming through this post and missed the part where he said the turbo is new BUT the longer spool time and oil in the IC screams turbo seals to me. Check the shaft play back and forth (Push into and pull out of the turbo) as well as up and down. Just because it spins freely doesn't mean it's in good shape. The turbo may have been oil starved at some point due to a clogged line or something or if someone did an oil system cleaner or if you did one you may have stripped the turbo bearings of their protective layer and caused it to self destruct itself in that fashion.

I'm just trying to toss a few other ideas out there. The first thing from the initial post that I thought was replace the PCV valve but with the problems you describe witht he turbo... Again I may be looking in the wrong place. You MAY have blowby causing hate and discontent for you.

Thanks Sanguinius, I will look at that. I am planning on putting on my new downpipe and o2 housing this weekend. So I will do it then. I am also putting on that PCV valve to see what happens. Thanks.

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As long as you have a way to stop the oil from going in one side of the coke bottle and out the other and right into the system again. That's what the filter element in there will do.

Also I have been skimming through this post and missed the part where he said the turbo is new BUT the longer spool time and oil in the IC screams turbo seals to me. Check the shaft play back and forth (Push into and pull out of the turbo) as well as up and down. Just because it spins freely doesn't mean it's in good shape. The turbo may have been oil starved at some point due to a clogged line or something or if someone did an oil system cleaner or if you did one you may have stripped the turbo bearings of their protective layer and caused it to self destruct itself in that fashion.

I'm just trying to toss a few other ideas out there. The first thing from the initial post that I thought was replace the PCV valve but with the problems you describe witht he turbo... Again I may be looking in the wrong place. You MAY have blowby causing hate and discontent for you.

..and that's why I'm trying to get this guy to troubleshoot by putting on the filter. If there's only a small amount of oil in the filter, then the next obvious is the turbo seals. Why he's waiting to put it on with the other stuff is unknown to me because it literally only takes 1 minute to do and he'll have instant results. But, I'm done, until he posts results.

I wasn't disagreeing. And I'm not sure why he's considering it wasting money on a filter either. It's less than $10 most likely less than $5 and will tell him whether he'll be spending $100's or just a few $ to fix his problem. I'd think I'd want to know ASAP personally.

Alright guys, i agree also. But why cant i just use a coke bottle. It will save me a trip and even a couple bucks.

stick the hose in a plastic coke bottle, a filter,an old cigarette pack,.. whatever you wanna use, just take the hose off and lay it there & see if it blows oil all over the outside of the motor...... just so the hose isnt going back into the intake, if your IC piping is still full of oil then its probly turbo seals

Hey guys, got a quick question about those turbo seals. If it is my turbo seals, would that mean i need a new turbo, or can I get it rebuilt?

Just in case you guys are wondering why I havent done the filter thing yet, is because i left my car at my house and I rode with my roomate back to school. So i wont do it til the weekend...

Yeah you can take the hose off to see what happens and use a coke bottle but your engine will be running like crap if I'm not mistaken.

You can get the turbo rebuilt. The rebuild kits are around $100. I'm not sure how much a shop will charge though.

isnt this a new turbo? and shouldnt it have a warrenty on it? But i still doubt its the turbo

Yes it is practically new. I had it in there for about a month and half or even 2 months. I will check it anyway. I believe it does have a warranty. Thanks.

Sup guys. Well anyway, as soon as i got home today i hooked up the coke bottle to the hose and drove it around for about an hour and 15 min. (i had to make a couple stops) Anyway, when i got home after that, i popped the hood and only noticed a couple drops in the bottle. I have not checked the intake yet. And if you guys are wondering, yes I cleaned the entire intercooler piping before doing this. Well anyway, i let my car cool down, so that i can slap on my new downpipe and o2 housing (which is a BIATCH!) Anyway, while under the car i noticed some oil under the turbo (around the wastegate and the turbo itself). Dont know if this is good or bad. Oh! and by the way, when i first started driving my car, it was doing the same thing (the feeling, that it feels like my car is clogged), but towards my last couple stops the turbo started spooling fine and it felt awesome. I hope this is good? But anyway, while i was also driving, when i would floor it and shift, right after the shift a puff of white smoke would shoot out. It would never do this before. What do you guys think? I still havent put on that PCV valve, i ran out of time and I didnt even get to slap on the o2 housing or downpipe. So right now my car is in my garage waiting to be finished.

Anyway, what are y'all thoughts?

Correct me if im wrong, but the cloud of white smoke would be going lean right? maybe you are running too much boost for your fuel system?
oh, that pcv should only take you like 10 minutes to replace

sounds like turbo seals to me... i bet the IC and pipes are full of oil again

Alright, did the "bottle" thing. Found no oil in the intake. Completely dry and clean. But did find oil in upper intercooler piping. Not ALOT, but some.

Turbo seals like I thought in the first place . Sounds like you might be getting a coolant leakby in the turbo as well. Not TOO serious of a leak YET but it'll get there. check your coolant resevior level and radiator and see if it stays stable or if you're slowly using any. I'd have to say time for a new turbo or at least a rebuild. If it's fairly new does it have a warranty?