RANT about potheads! - Page 2

Right?? Lets see... hold on... gonna do some math here, real quick... hmm... damn near $2K a year... for (semi-assisted) suicide, lol... well, THERES a turbo kit for my 3g... Dammit...

yup yup, so when you die from hitting a wall at least it's quick and painless rather than cancerous and drawn out lol

i appretiate the imput but IMO there is no such thing as a "repsonsible stoner" isnt that like a "responsible alcaholic"

weed
1. causes cancer like cigerettes
2. causes longterm memory loss
3. has similar effects as being drunk
4. causes birth defects
5. gateway drug

the reason there is no responsible potsmoker is becouse hurting your body is not responsible...that is all.

I dont wanna be closed minded, i am open to everything, but im kinda with david on this one.... dont hate me people >_< haha, but just that the situation im on makes my opinion way biased... living near tijuana, well.... its QUITE a mess down here, the reason why i really dont condone drugs at all is because while someone is getting high, behind that innocent fact, theres a military war on colombia, and casualties all the way down to that person, going through every place the merchandise is driven through... i agree its not as bad as tabacco, or alcohol, but its illegal, harms your body in other ways (destroys memory) and may impair your ability to operate dsms :) my 2 cents, no hate place, and i as well have stoner friends... but i wish they werent

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ORIGINAL: davidmitsusrock

i appretiate the imput but IMO there is no such thing as a "repsonsible stoner" isnt that like a "responsible alcaholic"

weed
1. causes cancer like cigerettes
2. causes longterm memory loss
3. has similar effects as being drunk
4. causes birth defects
5. gateway drug

the reason there is no responsible potsmoker is becouse hurting your body is not responsible...that is all.

....not everything they teach you in D.A.R.E is true.

It does not cause cancer like cigs.
It does not have similar effects as being drunk.
It does cause a loss of short term memory, not long term.
So does standing too close to the microwave while pregant.
Sugar is the gateway drug, or cigs, or booze, or caffiene. 

I'm assuming you are in perfect shape, never eat fast food, have a balanced diet, work out regularly...if you aren't the perfect Adonis, you are not taking care of the body God gave you and therefore are acting irresponsibly. That is all....lol.

arent you like ****ing 40 something? you should be the responisble one saying it is bad for you...so i guess you do drugs as well? and yes it DOES have similar effects to being drunk i have had dosens of people tell me that...they say you cant stay focused when you are high. (hmm i guess that is like being drunk huh?) people like you dissapoint me...IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A REASON

I am sorry if i have morals...it seems very few people do anymore...

40 something...damn man, that's a low blow.

It is not in any way shape or form like being drunk.

I disappoint you because I don't believe it is as bad as you think it is...sorry man.

Do some serious research into why pot was made illegal.  Research it from both sides...the real reasons it was banned may surprise you.

Being moral has nothing to do with it...

edit:  Also, I never said I did drugs, nor did I condone them.  I did dispell some of the myths you posted.  Nothing more.
I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm very happy that you don't/won't do drugs ever, but when you get older, you will meet more people who's lives have been destroyed by alchohol than pot...and alchohol is perfectly legal...

Pot hurts your body...morals have everything to do with it....smoking weed is an immature stupid thing to do. It is so sad when people try to defend drugs...drugs are irresponsible no matter how you look at it...if you were a manager of a business would you want all of your employees to smoke pot? no because that makes it more likely for them to be lazy and undependable....

I've been a manager before...as long as they did their job, it wasn't any of my business what they did on their time. 

im sure they werent stoners either...there are mamagers that do drugs themselves where i work...my dad was a manager of a factory with over 200 employees at one time and he would never tolerate that stuff...i think he is prolly around your age as well.

I just have a problem with people defending stuff like drugs.

I know quite a few of them did drugs.  I promoted up to management, so I knew quite a few of them outside the work place before I became "the man." 

You want to see a real drug that jacks up people's lives...
http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/photo_2.html

yea weed gets you into other drugs like that^ you are supposed to be mature and professional and you are saying weed isnt a problem basically. 

Don't put words into my mouth, that is never cool...

This has been a good conversation thus far, let's not ruin it by making assumptions.

I would never condone drugs, ever.  I also don't condone drinking, smoking, getting hooked on prescription drugs or even eating fast food.  None of it is good for you.

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ORIGINAL: davidmitsusrock
yea weed gets you into other drugs like that^

How many kids have you known that were doped up on ADD drugs?
I'm sure you know a few caffeine addicts, right?  I know I like a sobe adreneline in the morning.
Haven't you ever seen a parent say no to an evening sugar rush from a child?
Surely you know some kids your age that drink.
Any smoker...chewers...
Ever seen a medicine cabinet full of prescriptions?

Drugs are all around us, every day.  Any one of those could be considered a gateway drug. 

im well aware of all of this but i am also well aware that i have seen people who first started smoking then started doing weed and now they are on meth, ex, cocaine, and anything else you can think of...i have a bit of a caffine addiction my self i like to have either soda, coffe, or an energy drink to wake up in the morning but i am also healthy im not full blown fat and even though i work at mcdonalds i try to stay away from the food. But stuff like that is minor compared to weed...

drugs like weed are what i call drug abuse...priscription drugs have a purpose unlike illegal drugs correct? unless you consider getting high a valid purpose? i cant stand smokers and chewers either all of that causes more problems then occasionaly having a beer or eating junk food. I dont mind people who drink as long as it is in moderation...i dont mind people that smoke a cigar every now and again but chain smokers, druggies, alcaholics, and compulsive chewers bother me alot.

ok so what is your take on my manager(managers assitant) trying to sell me a 15 year old kid weed?

Listen, ok, we've heard points of view and all that, and ALL of them are right so far... but lets just be sincere, theres isnt anyone born yet that is responsible enough to sustent a drug addiction NO ONE!, caffeine is a drug, rite, but it doesnt get you high, sure wired, but it doesnt affect your senses... there are thousands of drugs, youd be amazed of the quantity of food containing thoujone (sp o_O) which is what marijuana and absinthe have in common. i would have no problem whatsoever with drugs if there wasnt people who steal, kill or do awful things just to sustain a vice... my point of view

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ORIGINAL: davidmitsusrock
ok so what is your take on my manager(managers assitant) trying to sell me a 15 year old kid weed?

Prosecution.

   So far everybody has brought up some very valid points in this discussion. I will repeat I do not condone smoking pot However, I am a Nurse and I can assure you that weed is not as harmful as cigarettes or alcohol! Period why, do you think they are trying to give it to Cancer patients. The only reason it is illegal is BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT CONTROL THE MONEY MADE OFF OF IT!!  Davidmitsusrock I think that you are looking at your personal experiences and making a judgment based on that assumption which is not a very good thing to do all the time. I am not trying to start a fight or anything just speaking for the heart. I feel it is good young people are saying no to drugs. Yes, weed can be a Gate Way drug for some people however, when you take a deeper look most of those people that try more potent drugs tend to people with easily addictive behavior in the first place, those people are called high risk. The only people who should work under any influence are artist such as writing, painting, drawing or music something that will not affect another person. If you are in a service industry, healthcare, or anything like that being high and working is wrong and dangerous! Hell, I feel nothing that only hurts yourself should be against the law. But, that is a whole other debate.

Well said, Nubian.

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Pot hurts your body...morals have everything to do with it....smoking weed is an immature stupid thing to do. It is so sad when people try to defend drugs...drugs are irresponsible no matter how you look at it...if you were a manager of a business would you want all of your employees to smoke pot? no because that makes it more likely for them to be lazy and undependable....

 
if this is how you feel than that is fine and i -for the most part- agree.   but in the same breathwith the effects of weed being on the same level as acahol it would be hypocritcal to say this if you drink or have ever drank alcahol.  as Nubian explained, the only reason they havne't/won't legalize marijuana is because they can not tax it and uncle same is a greedy bastard.  smoking weed once in a while is the same thing/just as iresponsible as having a casual beer once in a while with dinner.

Yes, as someone stated previously, you cant believe everything you hear in D.A.R.E.... remember at one time the Govt told people smoking cigarettes was completely healthy and glamorous. The people behind the DARE program are also the same people that take working cancer meds off the market then sell Roxys/OCs to the people suffering without it.

As long as they don't try to push it upon someone else then thats fine, But then again how often do you hear in the news that a pothead has robbed a store or murdered someone for their fix...

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ORIGINAL: Danigurl06

As long as they don't try to push it upon someone else then thats fine, But then again how often do you hear in the news that a pothead has robbed a store or murdered someone for their fix...

I agree with the "pushing" thing.  The second part I find true also, but.....the one thing that I've experienced in my lifetime is that pot, for some but not all, is a stepping stone onto harder drugs.  My ex used to smoke pot and she moved onto the harder stuff, even as I bitched and yelled about her to not do it.  She "tried" it once and was hooked!!  She's gone downhill since then.  Also, note that her other pothead friends shortly followed.  That high pot gave them apparently wasn't enough that they wanted more...what a downward spiral...

I admit that in high school I tried pot for a month and just got sick of being hungry and paranoid!  I was even literally given the stuff because of who I hung out with......not worth it, IMO.  I don't think I ever knew a rich kid with pot before...probably because they moved on to the harder stuff because they have money, lol.

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ORIGINAL: Danigurl06

As long as they don't try to push it upon someone else then thats fine, But then again how often do you hear in the news that a pothead has robbed a store or murdered someone for their fix...

It doesn't happen...cause they are too stoned to get off the couch.

Yeah it could be a stepping stone to harder drugs I watch my brother go through it for my entire life. But thats there choice. Some people choose to move on to harder stuff considering the influences that they are around. But as long as they are around good people and don't get off of the couch then that should be fine.