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mysterio2099
5/26/2006 9:53:33 AM
Now this is one kick ass idea some physeez have thought up. It'll be awesome if they can pull it off.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6077255.html

Think they'll get it?
dirtwagon
5/26/2006 10:55:22 AM
If they do happen to succeed, the DOD will put a hush order on it, patent it, and it will be a military only application. Think of the mayhem if things could suddenly become invisible. I don't think it'll happen in my lifetime though, they only mentioned " imagining", not "based on our research", or anything more substantial than a theory.
mysterio2099
5/26/2006 1:06:40 PM
Yeah I know, but it would still be awesome to see it in person... that is, if the US Government ever admits to having it. And sure, they haven't did it, but they seem to have a pretty good idea of how they're going to do it. I think they'll have it in your life time.. you're not THAT old are you?
Santa
5/26/2006 1:40:33 PM
I've been able to make my self invisible for years simply by drinking enough...
mysterio2099
5/26/2006 1:47:17 PM
lmao, too bad that is a different type of invisibility
XTREME
5/26/2006 3:50:32 PM
When they speak of invisibility they're not meaning that a person or thing will be "totally" invisible. It will be more like the predator movie...still pretty cool!!
dirtwagon
5/28/2006 4:45:10 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: mysterio2099
And sure, they haven't did it, but they seem to have a pretty good idea of how they're going to do it. I think they'll have it in your life time.. you're not THAT old are you?

I am 27, so I guess I'm a little older than some, but Santa's got my back, right? lol
They're blowing smoke up our @sses. There isn't that much of an advantage to something that bends light rays to appear invisible. I don't think the US govn't will put much money into this project. The item will still leave a heat signature( vehicle, soldier, ship, airplane). It's a cool idea, but doesn't have much of a practical purpose in the military. Our weapons are becoming more precise every day affording much more lethal firepower to the ground soldier. We already have a 50cal shoulder fired rifle that is accurate and maintains enough power to penetrate bunker walls from over a mile away( the Barrett 50 cal). This is a semi auto sniper rifle capable of sending rounds downrange at a rate of a 10 shot clip in less than 10 seconds. Compare that to the old sniper rifle that was a manual load each time you shot. Canadian special forces took out enemy forces in Iraq from over 3000 meters away. The bullet travels 3 times faster than sound. Your dead before you hear the shot. I'll take that gun please. You're invisible? Great, I have infrared. You're dead. We also have cool little robots that are armed and remotely driven as fast as a man can run. We have the Predator spy plane now armed with missiles. Invisibility of this sort I think is not all that valuable aside from possibly cloaking parked, cooled vehicles and weapons/ supplies cache's.
Now it's time for someone to tell me i'm retarded and it's the best invention ever.
mysterio2099
5/28/2006 4:57:15 PM
Actually, they said they could (this is all if they pull it off) make you invisible to basically any wavelength.. that includes infared. They could even shield sound. A plane you can't see, spot on radar, or catch with infared... that'd be a great asset to the military. I mean, even if things were only set up for visible invisibility, don't you think a cloaked tank would be harder to hit than a visible one? or a plane? A solider could have a riot style shield that is made of this **** and just pop the thing down and front of him and go invisible to everyone in front of him.. it could also block out infared. There were some other uses for it I read in a separate article, but I can't recall what they were.
dirtwagon
5/28/2006 5:02:55 PM
Now see, you need to provide us old people with all the information. I need to see how this will hide the heat signatures and sound. Obviously if it could provide all of the above it would be an asset, that makes it less feasible in my mind...but I'm sure people thought the same thing about supersonic flight and space travel. If you find the other articles post them, I'd be interested to read them.
mysterio2099
5/28/2006 5:35:09 PM
it's a pretty simple concept actually.. infared, microwave, visual spectrum, sound.. they all produce a wavelength.. they can make this special metal that lets specified wavelengths roll around it... so if visual and infared wavelengths roll around this metal, you wont be able to visually see it or see the infared specturm .. it "wouldn't be there."

I don't have the articles on hand, but I do know they were on Google News somewhere.
dirtwagon
5/28/2006 5:37:06 PM


lol
mysterio2099
5/28/2006 5:40:02 PM
That's what they said about everything else scientists have thought up AND made, lol.. so I wouldn't call bull **** just yet
Sebba
5/28/2006 5:45:59 PM
Hes right. Thats how some scientists managed to make a device that creates silence. What it does is measures the sound and puts out the exact oposite of that... canceling it out and neutralising it. The real task was making the data processing fast enough.
mysterio2099
5/28/2006 5:49:07 PM
Did they do they in a stealth bomber or something? I haven't heard about that.
Sebba
5/28/2006 7:04:33 PM
no that had to do with light reflection to make it look smaller than a golf ball on radar
dirtwagon
5/28/2006 11:15:16 PM
To what extent can the sound "deadening" device be used? That's an interesting device. I am curious as to why they are not in use on the submarines as of yet. I was watching a program last night and the Germans lay claim to the quietest submarine in the world mostly due to having the quietest generator in the world and not sound deadening materials primarily.
As for the calling "bs"... I believe they will eventually make something that removes a heat signature, is infrared undetectable, makes you visually invisible, and masks your sound waves, however, that is quite a daunting task and I don't think I'll see it on the Discovery channel in the next 40 years. BUT, technology is advancing so rapidly, especially pertaining to warfare, that it may happen and I'll eat my words.
I thought the stealth bomber's exterior absorbed the majority of the radar waves rather than reflecting them, thus making it apper to be only a bird in size?
mysterio2099
5/28/2006 11:25:38 PM
Yes, they absorb and deflect radar making them very difficult to detect. I don't know where Sebba got the who light reflection thing from?
Sebba
5/29/2006 9:34:21 AM
It didnt absorb the majority from whati know. It was black to assist absorbtion but it wasnt the main factor. The example i was shown is take a peice of paper... rotate it to make it look like a diamond.... and then tilt it so you can only see the edge. Its made up of loads of diamond shaped peices.
mysterio2099
5/30/2006 9:24:56 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003027025_invisible30.html

Metamaterials, assemblages of small artificial bits of patterned metal films, can be engineered to bend almost any kind of electromagnetic energy. Schurig said that "probably this year" scientists will produce a metamaterial that can shield equipment from microwave radiation. However, protecting objects from visible light — creating an invisibility cloak — is "further out," he said in a telephone interview — "maybe 10 years."

Smith compared the process to a stream flowing around a stone — essentially creating a "hole" in the water, where anything can be hidden and remain unnoticed from the outside. "We have shown it can be done for almost any frequency," he said in a telephone interview. "Being able to build it is another story."

dirtwagon
5/30/2006 5:03:51 PM
That sounds like a pain in the ass!! Only time will tell. Whether or not it happens in that time frame, it's still a pretty forward thinking concept.
mysterio2099
5/30/2006 5:20:44 PM
i don't care if they only make an invisible dime in 10 years.. that'll just be the next step.. and I'll only be 29 then, so that means 10 years after that they'll have invisible battle ships.. that's the day I join the Navy haha
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