couls you take a 2wd eclipse and make it front wheel drive?
Prophet
9/27/2004 9:15:44 PM
lol I might be missing something but I thought a 2G 2wd Eclipse is already front wheel drive.
Or are you asking to make it a rear wheel drive?
SpyderGS
9/28/2004 9:18:19 AM
Yeah...i'm with Prophet here....
But you *could* make it RWD....just take the engine from the front, drop it in back, and you'll have a mid-engine monster. It really doesn't cost all that much either, if you can weld then you'll save a load of cash. Swap the front and rear suspension, get rid of A/C, Power steering, everything that drives off the engine. You *can* use the Electric Power Steering system from a 2nd gen MR2...
Of course you've figured out that this whole swap will be easier if you're using an Automatic transmission, but other than that, everything else should be fine. Wiring will be a pain, and figuring out which way you want to run the radiator is gonna be kind of though....But it is very do-able. So there you go....one way to make a RWD DSM.
ya i ment rear wheel drive lol but ya i can weld and all other stuff
SpyderGS
9/29/2004 11:30:30 AM
Why do people always laugh at me when i tell them cool things? They always laugh and then look at me like i'm crazy...i'm not crazy. I'm very not crazy

grrrrrrrrrrrrr
DSMEagle1
10/1/2004 9:27:16 AM
get an awd eclipse and take out the front drive then you have a rwd
SpyderGS
10/1/2004 11:39:18 AM
Yeah, there's a procedure on how to make the AWDs RWD, but i hear it's real risky and can't hold a lot of power. I've only seen one rwd dsm. It was a 1g talon, and the guys center diff locked up and only the rear wheels got power. I saw the video of him doing a burnout, it was pretty cool.
BurntGSX
10/1/2004 3:20:20 PM
why would you want to ruin a perfectly good AWD by making it RWD? im confused... I'd take AWD over anything, anyday. I know it weighs more, but its so nice
nate5023
10/3/2004 7:57:47 PM
You can but it will cost a ton of money
wildwest
10/4/2004 8:38:59 AM
the better question is why... Why would you?
nate5023
10/4/2004 7:01:05 PM
Better for drags because of the weight maybe, go hear it's a awd here in MN osofastracing.com
wildwest
10/5/2004 9:27:28 AM
whats better for drags? rwd? awd isnt even that good for drag. we had a teacher who liked cars so he gave us a project to take a car and find the best takeoff setup. we spent a few weeks and used the schools cars for testing. the awd has a better 60' but gennerally the added weight and drivetrain loss hurts the top end.
nate5023
10/5/2004 11:27:48 PM
Yeah the awd will pull ahead at the beginning but then the rwd will catch up fairly quick.
wildwest
10/6/2004 8:18:52 AM
im still confused on why you would make it rwd...
SpyderGS
10/6/2004 9:07:30 AM
Another reason(and probably most often overlooked reason) is drivetrain loss. Full time AWD like the DSM's and scooby's suck up power ALL the time. So if the engine is making 300hp, the drivetrain is soaking up about 20%. RWDs don't soak up as much power, prolly only 12-15%, and FWDS soak up the least amount, sometimes as little as 5% depending on manufacturer technology. Manufacturer's are aware of this and quite a few have developed AWD systems that give a 50/50 torque split front and rear when needed. Of course they'd put this technology only on their flagship cars, or major sports cars. The most popular car, and prolly the best example, is of course the Skyline GTR. During take off, the drivetrain can make the torque split as much as 50:50 front to rear, giving it a good chance of translating all the power to the ground. After take off though, the front wheels don't do much to propel the car since most of the weight has "shifted" to rear, so the wonderful ATTESA System is capable of giving a 1:99 torque split front to rear, effectively making the car RWD and making use of all the weight transfer to gain traction. I think the r32's and r34's can do a 0:100 split, while the r33's are only limited to 1:99......but why am i talking about Nissan's in a Mitsu forum?
I"M NOT CRAZY!!!! GRRRRRR
1398spdr
10/6/2004 4:14:04 PM
hey spyder, its ok, were all a little crazy, hehe............
wildwest
10/7/2004 10:23:44 AM
crazy??? I was crazy once.... They locked me in a rubber room. It was cold... I died... they buried me... there were worms... Worms Tickle... They drove me crazy... Crazy... I was crazy once.
1398spdr
10/7/2004 2:02:29 PM
yea, i was crazy, the voices in my head just wont go away......... who are you talkin to?
what, no one........ huh?
nate5023
10/9/2004 1:13:51 AM
Makes it a lot faster for drags and for highway racing.