outrum
5/15/2007 12:33:38 PM
outrum
5/15/2007 12:39:06 PM
outrum
5/15/2007 12:41:02 PM
06OutlanderSE
5/15/2007 12:52:00 PM
looks good, i thought about doing this mod also just havent done so yet
Manybrews
5/15/2007 3:19:34 PM
its a mod that is pretty much useless, and often causes multiple problems.
despite what people think, you do not really save power. You mearly make all your accessories work harder, and benefit less from them. Almost every componant driven off the belt is variable in its load. So if they're turning slower, they must increase drag to overcome the loss of speed.
Example 1)the AC is variable displacement. if the pressures are inadaquate due to loss of compressor speed, it increases displacement to compensate. That requires more drag to turn. So you accomplish nothing.
Example 2)The alternator may have to full field to produce enough power at idle to compensate for the slower speed. Result: more drag.
etc.etc
not too mention the loss of the VERY important crankshaft damper.
OTO27
5/16/2007 2:13:27 PM
Manybrews I see your point, however I was a proud owner of a Rallliart. Although I never bothered with this mod, my buds have and they are amazed at how much of a difference they feel from such an inexpensive mod. So how would you explain this? I would guess its notisable due to the car being lighter than the outi, not sure but I hear lots of good things about the pulley from the guys at the evom forums who own ralliarts.
Jay Envy
5/17/2007 6:57:19 PM
I have the same mod on my outlander. Installed acouple of months ago and love it. You can easily feel the power difference. And according to the rev meter, it rev acouple of hundred rpm lesser around what I'm used to which means that the engine is working . The only con I see with the RRM pulley is that when the car is at idle, the lights are alittle dimmer...no biggie.
outrum
5/17/2007 11:52:26 PM
despite what you think, i love this mod... believe me, i do a lot of research before buyin it.
Did you ever try it? Or it's just what others tell you about? And i doesn't have any problems at all...
rcpax
5/18/2007 12:35:12 AM
Why no warranty? It seems the manufacturer didn't do a long term test on this product before marketing it.
"Will this affect your warranty?
As with any modification there is always a possibility that there could be unseen effects where problems could be caused. It is up to you to do the bait and switch method when going in for service although I doubt this would really matter. These pulleys are balanced and should cause no engine damage or warranty concerns when at service. As always any damages resulting from modifications are the responsibility of the owner of the car and I will reserve no rights to any liability from damage this pulley could cause on your vehicle.
outrum
5/18/2007 2:16:28 PM
It takes less than an hour to install it, so if you think you will have any issues with the dealer just put the original back.
expositor
5/18/2007 10:53:32 PM
manybrews,
those of us who've added this mod all feel it's increased the driveability of the 4g69. i don't pretend to be an expert, but i believe your concerns about the ac compressor and alternator are minor as the drag you mention is not a product of their respective rpm's, but of demand so to speak, and would really only affect the car in extended, really extended, idle periods. also re: the alternator, you'd only have to worry about 'full field' with underdrive if your voltage regulator is faulty, during, again, an extremely extended idle period.
however, your point re: an undamped pulley is well taken, but it's something i'm only concerned about when banging the gears to accelerate briskly to highway speeds reminds me, first, that i have the pulley because the car feels faster, and second, because that throttle-by-wire gizmo causes rough shifting which feels like it can
cause alot of crank shock. so, i have to say i agree with you on the damper....but that pulley does help the
4g69 'feel' nicer than stock....
