totally new!

hey guys, im totally new to modding eclipses. i own a 06 v6 mustang and have just started modding it and i got my cousin into madding too. he owns obviously a 3rd gen eclipse gts and i just wanted to ask a couple of questions. he just bought a k&n CAI and i recommended him to buy a tuner/programmer/w/e u want to call it too. hes never heard of one for eclipses and i thinks thats impossible. there r so many for my mustang and i imagine that its the same for any car. if theres one that works best w/ k&n plz let me kno and also if u could let me kno of a subtle, not too loud, ot too quite cat back exhaust system please let me kno as well. thnk u very much.

You can buy an EMS system for a 3rd Gen. Eclipse.check AEM.  good luck finding a "quiet " cat back.  It all depends on the muffler.  As far as going performance, a 3rd Gen. GTS is terrible.  The pistons are crap and can only take about 6 PSI and supercharging it is way more expensive than turboing it.  Other than that it's EXPENSIVE to get power out of the motor. If you're planning on doing small mods (Your friend), I'd get a AEM Uego Wideband with an APEXI SAFC-II  air fuel controller instead of buying the Engine Management system due to cost efficiency.

a CAI wont add anything.  Maybe a few WHP.  add a SAFC and have it tuned youll get 10WHP more at best but that is all

its crazy how much more complicated these names r compared to the ones i deal w/, lol. by getting it tuned u mean get a perf chip, right? just making sure were using the right terminology and r on the same page.

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ORIGINAL: jshem746

its crazy how much more complicated these names r compared to the ones i deal w/, lol. by getting it tuned u mean get a perf chip, right? just making sure were using the right terminology and r on the same page.

no.. there are no chips technically.   The SAFC is like a chip but it allows you to control your tune and change your AFR.   Just have him keep in mind there is not alot of power to be made from these cars.  You either waiste your money buying small mods and stay N\A and youll be able on a GTS to get around 200WHP out of it that is all.  Or you an spend a ton of money and turbo or ripp sds the thing and make big power but not very cost efficient

so theyre nothing like the second gen eclipses that have potential is wat ur saying right?

Thats exactly what hes saying : )

We should all send a request form to mitsubishi to have them remake the 3rd gen with an awd platform and turbo the V6 with better pistons as stock. YAY!

Wrong, that they make the Ralliart Eclipse!!!!!!!!!

so y go u guys waste ur time if u kno this?? dont u feel like ur effort is pointless?

I dont own a 3g : )

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so y go u guys waste ur time if u kno this?? dont u feel like ur effort is pointless?

I dont that is why I have an Evo... the 3G I have is a spyder just for a cruiser daily driver.  my evo sees about 3000 miles a year now a days lol

i c... alright guys i guess if the SAFC is the way to go then thats wat were gonna do. maybe well just swap out the motor. would a 3000gt TT fit in it? if not, wat would?

Problem is, the car doesnt work well with SAFC anyways. I dont know why Mike recomended that
 
And no the 3kgt motor will not fit in : )

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Problem is, the car doesnt work well with SAFC anyways. I dont know why Mike recomended that

And no the 3kgt motor will not fit in : )

Seb your wrong.  It works fine with a N\A car with headers and bolt ons.  When you need to tune all RPM ranges it sucks and the 3G doesnt support it well, but n headers your tuning up top mostly and it works just fine most guys use it but also keep in mind the ECU in the 3G now has software out so tuners can dyno tune the car and just flash the ECU to retune over the factory tune... the same way the Evo reflashes work which I have on my car and I have around $10k in motor work and the flash works well

I was talkin about the TT lol

i like my 3g. It's just something like i'm always the under dog. If you ask me thats the fun in it. every body knows the 2g. not saying theres anything wrong with them i would love to get a tsi.

k guys thnk u. i guess SAFC it is since we dont have a turbo on it. next would b exhaust then throttle body?

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k guys thnk u. i guess SAFC it is since we dont have a turbo on it. next would b exhaust then throttle body?

First should be CAI ,headers, exhaust and SAFC.

I swear you told me the SAFC doesnt work on the 3g

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I swear you told me the SAFC doesnt work on the 3g

Dude read what I just said.   I doesnt work well if you need to tune the entire RPM band I.E. if you turbo it.   It works fine on NA mods because these mods only require you to tune high RPM range that is where the SAFC becomes usfull and can make you around 10 more WHP

My bad. Gotcha

Emonz57 you had Apexi safcII in your 3g. Is there a big differents between it and the neo?

eclipseforums.org  has everything you need for 3g's

 the safcII can be tuned more percise right.