Tune Up parts

Hi, im planing to do the first tune up to my '00 eclipse since i bought it, im going to put it the NGK iridium plugs and the 8.5 mm wires, but i dont know if its fine to put synthetic or conventional oil? and what type of filters are better, thanks.

yes its ok to run synthetic now. its probably preferred. go with mobil 1 or K&N oil filter. stay away from the FRAM filters.

Ok, thanks

here is the only problem i see with the k&n filter they are made for high milage oil changes so the extra you pay for the k&n is not fully used because the the oil should be changes about ever 3000 miles or 3 months. Fram is a ok filter as long as it is changed after 3000 miles or 3 months of use most filters are this way. also you may want to get a o2 sensor,pcv valve,air filter,fuel filter, check all fluids and fill. if you want to do a full tuneup.

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ORIGINAL: get435

here is the only problem i see with the k&n filter they are made for high milage oil changes so the extra you pay for the k&n is not fully used because the the oil should be changes about ever 3000 miles or 3 months. Fram is a ok filter as long as it is changed after 3000 miles or 3 months of use most filters are this way. also you may want to get a o2 sensor,pcv valve,air filter,fuel filter, check all fluids and fill. if you want to do a full tuneup.

i dont think anybody recommends oil changes every 3000 miles anymore. i change mine about every 8-10k. most manufacturers suggest every 7500 miles. studies have shown that synthetic oils can be used for longer periods of time.

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ORIGINAL: eclipsed4u

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ORIGINAL: get435

here is the only problem i see with the k&n filter they are made for high milage oil changes so the extra you pay for the k&n is not fully used because the the oil should be changes about ever 3000 miles or 3 months. Fram is a ok filter as long as it is changed after 3000 miles or 3 months of use most filters are this way. also you may want to get a o2 sensor,pcv valve,air filter,fuel filter, check all fluids and fill. if you want to do a full tuneup.

i dont think anybody recommends oil changes every 3000 miles anymore. i change mine about every 8-10k. most manufacturers suggest every 7500 miles. studies have shown that synthetic oils can be used for longer periods of time.

Wow ive never heard of this. I still do mine at 3000 miles along with everyone else I know. I also think fram filters are fine. Nothing special, but change your oil when you are supposed to and they will do the job. Remember if you go synthetic, you need to stick with it. It protects great, but I wouldnt say you need it, so its your choice on that.

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ORIGINAL: get435

here is the only problem i see with the k&n filter they are made for high milage oil changes so the extra you pay for the k&n is not fully used because the the oil should be changes about ever 3000 miles or 3 months. Fram is a ok filter as long as it is changed after 3000 miles or 3 months of use most filters are this way. also you may want to get a o2 sensor,pcv valve,air filter,fuel filter, check all fluids and fill. if you want to do a full tuneup.

i dont think anybody recommends oil changes every 3000 miles anymore. i change mine about every 8-10k. most manufacturers suggest every 7500 miles. studies have shown that synthetic oils can be used for longer periods of time.

recomened in the haynes manuel and by the dealer as well as every macanic and macinest i know.

you guys need to get out more. there was an extensive study done on the breaking down of motor oil. it showed that after 3000 miles, the oil didn't break down as much as it did for the first 3000 miles. its almost a waste of money to change your oil every 3000 miles(unless it takes you 5 months to drive 3000 miles). with me, i drive about 1000 miles a week for work. therefore, i usually change my oil every 2 months. ill try to find a link to the study that was done.

Do what u want trust those number exsperance from people speaks louder to me than some dude that puts a car on a dyno and goes one speed with out the constant stop, start, high heat, cold temp, and stop and go traffic of rush hour never the less climbing a grade that can cause the vicostiy ofthe oil to break down faster. like i said you can trust some study but i will trust the manuel as well as the macinest and mchanics that see what happens over time without changing oil. here is a prim ex. i went into the dealer and there was a pic of a dohc that was seased motor because of sludge buildup in the motor gusss what it was a brand new tiberon with 15,000 guy never changed the oil.

how about you read before you go spouting off at the mouth about a study that you know nothing about.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html

here is a study on oil filters
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

figured i would throw this in...

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Engine wear actually decreases as oil ages. This has also been substantiated in testing conducted by Ford Motor Co. and ConocoPhillips, and reported in SAE Technical Paper 2003-01-3119. What this means is that compulsive oil changers are actually causing more engine wear than the people who let their engine's oil get some age on it.

on ever oil manufacture web site it says refer to owners manuel or every 3-4k from mobil1 to valvoline so once more i dont care what somone published on the net **** i could make a wab site that said my car went 20k just fine for 2years and going and people would belev it like i said exsperanced car techs as well as manules speak for more than some website for me if you want to belev it than sure do it but like i said i will stick to the advice of people and companys that have been doing this for longer than i have been here.

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ORIGINAL: get435

on ever oil manufacture web site it says refer to owners manuel or every 3-4k from mobil1 to valvoline so once more i dont care what somone published on the net **** i could make a wab site that said my car went 20k just fine for 2years and going and people would belev it like i said exsperanced car techs as well as manules speak for more than some website for me if you want to belev it than sure do it but like i said i will stick to the advice of people and companys that have been doing this for longer than i have been here.

well thats weird that Mobil 1 would tell you to change your oil every 3-4k when they are marketing an oil that they GUARANTEE will last 15k. wheres the logic in that?

also Amsoil recommends draining the oil up to 25k with their 5w-30 synthetic oil.

so where are you getting your information from? cause obviously it is wrong

also from GM's site...

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In general, most people that drive a combination of city and highway find that the GMOLS will indicate an oil change every 5,000 to 6,000 miles. GM data shows the OLS extends oil change intervals without risk to the engine.

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According to GM's Mike McMillan, "Certainly there is technology available to raise the standard and extend the drain interval without compromising engine durability or removing the performance cushion ... Europe is already at a 9,000 mile drain interval and is seriously considering twice that".

but im sure these companies are just publishing **** on the web just for ****s and giggles

lol I change my oil when it gets burn... I check it atleast every other day.

aw that is where you are wrong my friend mobil 1 extended preformace is the only one that garentees that mobil 1 supersyn dose not.

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aw that is where you are wrong my friend mobil 1 extended preformace is the only one that garentees that mobil 1 supersyn dose not.

so you're saying that Mobil 1 is marketing their extended performance oil for 15k mile intervals, all while they recommend you to change your oil every 3000 miles with the "regular" SuperSyn oil?

can you show me where Mobil 1 specifically states that you should change your oil every 3000 miles?

JEEZUS I'm sensing ALOT of pent up frustration here LOL. You ALL need to get out and off these boards and get laid or something. It seems all the forums all I see is fighting.

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ORIGINAL: get435

aw that is where you are wrong my friend mobil 1 extended preformace is the only one that garentees that mobil 1 supersyn dose not.

so you're saying that Mobil 1 is marketing their extended performance oil for 15k mile intervals, all while they recommend you to change your oil every 3000 miles with the "regular" SuperSyn oil?

can you show me where Mobil 1 specifically states that you should change your oil every 3000 miles?

it says it right on there web site when you look at the regular supersyn oil reccomened matinance schedual is manufacture recomened than below it will stat other than mobil 5000/7500/mobil1 extened preformance"15000"

here is a link to the warentee on the oil like it says only garentee what it says in the owners manuel!
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Warranty.aspx
in other words you know how your manuel says 3000 miles if you dont follow they will not garentte the viscosity of the oil to hold up and protect the motor with regular supersyn.

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ORIGINAL: Sanguinius

JEEZUS I'm sensing ALOT of pent up frustration here LOL. You ALL need to get out and off these boards and get laid or something. It seems all the forums all I see is fighting.

i really only post while im at work. once i get home, i usually don't get on the internet unless im totally bored

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ORIGINAL: Sanguinius

JEEZUS I'm sensing ALOT of pent up frustration here LOL. You ALL need to get out and off these boards and get laid or something. It seems all the forums all I see is fighting.

i really only post while im at work. once i get home, i usually don't get on the internet unless im totally bored

same here :)

Well for guys that only post at work there is an AWEFULL lot of argueing when the board was created to HELP people with thier problems and questions.

that wasn't arguing. its called difference of opinions w/facts to back up both opinions

Sounded fairly heated to me. Besides it was beyond the scope of the original question. My point is we're here to help not to argue and confuse someone asking a question. Provide the info and let the guy asking the question read it over and then decide himself.

under all technicality no it was not off subject because it was about tune ups and some advice was given on regular maintenance. give the person asking all the facts like we did so he can decide what he is going to do this post with all the sources and info in it may help a lot of people that dont know about certian parts like oil changes in maintenance of a vehical now dont think im am attacking you or anything but it may help a lot of people and have some poeple beleve either side of the opinions and or facts. so we presented a lot for people to think about and decide what they will do.

No I was saying MY post was off subject. What I was pointing out though was the hostility I'm seeing in some of these posts with the accusations of people not doing thier research before "Spouting off at the mouth". That type of thing I think is uncalled for in the forums.