turbo or supercharger on a N/A??

i have a 95 eclipse N/A. and since i don't have a trubo chargerd eclipse what's second best super charger? turbos are very expensive an pain in the ass to put into a n/a, but a super charger all you have to do is just plug n play. you won't get as much power as a turbo but, you'll a get a good kick n the ass.the problem with that is who makes it? how can i find one that will meet one that close resembles my engine specs??? NEED HELP?? if anybody can give me some feedback and info that will great thanks people!!

i found one on ebay but it looks like its fake! heres the link

http://motors.search.ebay.com/mitsubishi-eclipse-supercharger_Parts-Accessories_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQcatrefZC3QQcatrefZC6QQfromZR10QQsacatZ6028QQcatrefZC6QQmppfqyZmitsubishiQ20eclipseQ20superchargerQQsargnZ-1QQsaslcZ2QQsadisZ200QQfposZQ5AIPQ2FPostalQQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQfsopZ3QQfsooZ1

a bjsstang05 thanks for taking time to look for it. i check it out and that is like a blow dryer connected to0 my intake. yup yup is fake EIKI

jacksonracing doesnt have one, aem doesnt have one, the only opption would be a vortech supercharger that you can fabricate the piping for it.

brandon

yup, i knew that . that bites they make it for mazada, honda, and toyota, but not mitsubishi. would i have to fabricate the mounting plate?? which one do i get?? do i get one for a honda civic or just one for a 4 banger???? it sucks when your trying to be original or unique or wait....... even better trying to save money souping up your ride LOL.thanks bjsstang05 for the tips.



Eiki

what makes you think supercharger is plug n play? IMO turbos are cheaper anbd less hassle for your application

once you have the supercharger your going to have to fabricate a supercharger bracket. it all depends on what supercharger you get because of all the diffrent sizes. here are all the websites for them

www.vortechsuperchargers.com www.powerdyne.com www.paxtonauto.com these are all the superchargers that i recommend. BUT LOOK ON EBAY FOR BETTER PRICES!!!!! once you get the supercharger in place and everthing is bolted down then go ahead and measure the dimensions from the air inlet to the supercharger inlet for the piping, then eather get a powerpipe from somewhere or fabricate one yourself. if you need help with fitting the discharge tube let me know and i can see what my brother says about fitting it where you want it to go.....and if you have any other questions pm me or keep this thread alive.

brandon

quote:

ORIGINAL: DSMTalonAWD51

what makes you think supercharger is plug n play? IMO turbos are cheaper anbd less hassle for your application

for a junkyard turbo its cheap but for a aftermarket one like hks, turbosnetics their like 3 or 4 grand just for a good one. superchargers are much cheaper and you dont have to "spool" the turbo to get it going superchargers are plug and play but can take up to 4 to 6 hours to install and work with most stock computers and fuel. no offense to turbo guys.

brandon

i would put a turbo on it

I'm farmilliar with the "bolt-on power" available with like the older domestics like camaros and mustangs, but is putting a supercharger on an eclipse really that easy? I've never seen it done, but good luck. Oh, I think your best bet would be to sell what you are driving and get one that is turboed from the factory because the engines are made to hold up better to the boost and internally the rods and everything are "beefier" to hold up. i hope it all works out the way you want it.

It might be a pain in the ass to put in and install, but check i.t i'll have to get another car which will be a gsx. yeah its stronger but how much? its about 9 grand plus upgrading your turbo, intake, etc. thats hitting high 10 grand., but since i have a weaker engine all have to do is rebuild it. thats about 800-900. bore it out to about 2.2-2.4, port polishing, aluminum forged pistons=2 to 3 grand. plus a supercharger,4to1 headers, intake, intake manifold, ecu, exhaust and of course tuning.thats already surpassing a gsx turbo charged. all together its about less than 10 grand. there is always an alternate source of power which can be equal or exceed the common source of power.

so what supercharger are you going to run??? and yes it will be cheaper to put the supercharger on the car you have now instead of getting a 9 grand gsx and upgrading everything. anyway ya i think the supercharger will be alot of FUN!!! and i hope to see some pictures of this!! if you need help with anything like i said pm me

brandon GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: bjsstang05

quote:

ORIGINAL: DSMTalonAWD51

what makes you think supercharger is plug n play? IMO turbos are cheaper anbd less hassle for your application

for a junkyard turbo its cheap but for a aftermarket one like hks, turbosnetics their like 3 or 4 grand just for a good one. superchargers are much cheaper and you dont have to "spool" the turbo to get it going superchargers are plug and play but can take up to 4 to 6 hours to install and work with most stock computers and fuel. no offense to turbo guys.

brandon

a. youd have to be a moron to spend 4grand on a turbo. you can get turbos that produce over 500whp for less than 1 grand. get a mitsu 16g brand new for $500
b. superchargers are not cheaper and in order to use it with stock fuel settings you have to boost so low that it makes almost no difference at all. theres a reason people dont make supercharger kits for na eclipse
c. hks doesnt make turbos

whether you go with turbo or supercharger you are going to be spending money and time with custon piping. unless you are doing it just for the satisfaction of building the kit yourself and you have a lotof knowledge/fabrication experience, prepare for headaches. not trying to be negative about the idea, just truthful, its a lot more work than it sounds, and its not really going to pay off much either, you are going to have an unreliable car that runs high 14's/low 15's

.

the mitsu trubos are the weak trubos. the mitsu trubos come stock on the 1st gen FC and they are weak as hell.



EIKI

the mitsu turbos are the weak turbos. the mitsu turbos come stock on the 1st gen FC and they are weak as hell.



EIKI

Ok then.... You can get all the parts off ebay ie. headers, y-pipe, intercooler ect... and with a T4 turbo, you can push around28 psi. (depends on how its set up) My friend has a '99 GSX with a T4 and it is great:-) And also... yes you do have to wait for it to spool up, but it is not that much time before it reaches peak boost. If you are worried about gas, well then if you drive your car nice on the streets and you have a turbo, you will not produce any boost therefore not having to compensate with fuel

quote:

ORIGINAL: mokylok

the mitsu trubos are the weak trubos. the mitsu trubos come stock on the 1st gen FC and they are weak as hell.



EIKI

lolz...well thats why we called it "stock" have u' heard of"frenkeinstein" turbo??

quote:

ORIGINAL: mokylok

the mitsu turbos are the weak turbos. the mitsu turbos come stock on the 1st gen FC and they are weak as hell.
EIKI

Very ignorant statement. I want to know where you get your information. Mitsu turbos are probably the most reliable turbos out there in fact.

why are we not suggesting twin turbos here? lol best set up is to have a small one and a huge one of course i know this is a very bad thing for your pocket but it is worth it lol never forget the intercooler and your waste gate and blow off valve ooooooo and down pipes

twin turbo is pointless for a 4 cylinder, and not smart at all for a fwd car. turbos spooling at low rpms are going to give him even less traction. even modified gst's with 1 turbo can barely get traction. he will go through a set of tires before he even makes it down the quarter mile.

yea, i have a pretty much stock 98 gst and traction is a bitch on the street. i haven't ran it in prepared track conditions though. I wish they made the 2nd gen's rwd

who cares about tires when ur racein for large amounts of money id spend 500 on a set if i could win a race worth 1000

ooo and also u can let out the tire pressure so it will grip a little better

quote:

why are we not suggesting twin turbos here? lol best set up is to have a small one and a huge one of course i know this is a very bad thing for your pocket but it is worth it lol never forget the intercooler and your waste gate and blow off valve ooooooo and down pipes

Putting a TT in a 4-banger is by far the most pointless thing ne1 can do to a car. 1st they aren't meant for 4-cylinders n like DSM said its not good for FWD cuz of traction problems. Plus even if U did do TT, that could be 2 much power for a lil 4-banger engine 2 handle. Even Sequential Twin Turbos rn't good for 4 cyl's. U'd be working the turbo too much since the engine is small n working really hard. U'd practically spool the turbos up 2 quick (which can be good for boost, but U can screw up the turbo or thats wat I heard, not sure lol) and burn it out.