Warranty question / Power steering pump

Hi,
I recently bought a 2003 Outlander, it was great at first but then I start hearing  metal friction/grinding noises coming from the car as I turn the wheel.

According to the mileage and year count I am still under power train warranty, but I am the second owner. I have heard somewhere that powertrain are only available for the first owner?

Does anyone know if 2nd owner are also covered under the powertrain warranty?


Thanks

Dont worry... is most likely your power steering pump...

Thanks Sebba, but I am not too familiar with the issue.
 
Is the power steering pump under power train warranty?
 
Is there any instruction on what to do in that case?

Thanks alot

It should be covered.... seriously and if its not thats bullshit

Im pretty sure the PT warranty isnt transferable, because this is the question I had when I got the 07 and the answer was no. Also I dont think the power steering is part of the powertrain anyway.
 
Which really sucks.

Well... they replaced my friends battery when it went bad.... so they should do that

Not included ?  Any approx on how much it would be to replace in the service center?

I did some research and seems the bump is about 25 to 50 bucks?

Yeah... but its the labour that kills you

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ORIGINAL: BoldlyGoingNowhere

Im pretty sure the PT warranty isnt transferable, because this is the question I had when I got the 07 and the answer was no. Also I dont think the power steering is part of the powertrain anyway.

Which really sucks.

I know, for 07 Outlanders, the powertrain warranty is transferrable, but only the first 5 years since it was bought. Only first owners enjoy the full 10 yr powertrain warranty. 2nd owners on the other hand, receives whatever is left of the first 5 years.

Thanks rcpax
 
Can anyone confirm if power steering is included in the powertrain or not?

Anyone ever has it replace, how much was it?

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ORIGINAL: bennymax

Thanks rcpax

Can anyone confirm if power steering is included in the powertrain or not?

Anyone ever has it replace, how much was it?

Powertrain should be the engine and the transmission only, AFAIK.

the power train constitutes engines, transmissions, differentials, transfer cases, and parts connecting them like drive shafts, and cv and u-joints; period.  unfortunately, engine-driven accessories like power steering or air conditioning aren't considered power train.

I have seen dealerships still fix these things for free though. Its worth a shot

Thanks for the reply/help everyone. I tried to examine the noise a bit more today, as the dealership is closed on weekends.
 
I think I might have been mistaken about power steering.
 
It seems the grinding noise happens only when I step on break, and I also noticed that the metal part that is inside the wheel cover is really hot, is that normal?

Yay good news...you probably need new brakes. You can go to the dealer or check with friends or family for a good mechanic the dealer may cost more, call and ask how much brakes and rotors are (you might not need rotors but good to check anyway). Do not go to Midas.
 
BTW this would not be considered warranty unless 20,000 mi or less.

Cool thanks BoldlyGoingNowhere, I guess having the break fixed would be cheaper than the PS pump. Do you know if the high temperature inside the wheel is normal or not(it is the part inside the wheel cover).

If you've been using the brakes, heat from the rotors is normal.  Brakes transform kinetic energy into heat.  The more they work they hotter they get.  A bit of grinding noise can indicate worn rotors, a rock in the pad, or even just dust buildup.  If the brakes heat up every time you move without pressing the pedal, it could be a stuck piston in a caliper or binding parking brake(rear brakes only).  Lot's of options.

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ORIGINAL: bennymax

Cool thanks BoldlyGoingNowhere, I guess having the break fixed would be cheaper than the PS pump. Do you know if the high temperature inside the wheel is normal or not(it is the part inside the wheel cover).

Fyi the metal round thing inside the wheel is the brake rotor. If one is hotter than the rest then there is a problem. It can be hot from metal to metal of worn off pads, a warped rotor or it can be hot from a caliper dragging. I really doubt its your caliper but regardless you need an experienced brake mech to look at them.

If both fronts are equal temp and the rear is cooler this is normal under heavy braking, the rear does less braking than the front, the rotors shouldn't be too hot to touch either if they are very hot this is a problem too.

How many miles are on it?

Also as TCP said you can have a rock, I used to work construciton and got rocks and crap in my truck rotors regularly. I could get it out by backing a small distance and applying the brakes intermittently or  it would just fall out, however it didnt take long to fall out so if the noise is there a few days I doubt thats what it is.

"Im pretty sure the PT warranty isnt transferable, because this is the question I had when I got the 07 and the answer was no. Also I dont think the power steering is part of the powertrain anyway.

Which really sucks. "
 
 
Just to clarify for Canadian readers........the full powertrain warranty is fully transferable, up to 10 yrs or 160000 kms. This was one of the points that made this vehicle attractive for me. Should be more desirable on the used car market.
 
However Americans...note we pay substantially more for the vehicle up front.
 

Thanks everyone for your help, esp BoldlyGoingNowhere & Sebba, I will take the car to a mechanic later this week and report back what was the issue.

I am the 2nd owner on this 2003 Outlander it has about 52000 mil.

Well be glad you dont own an alero. The POS brakes only last 20,000 because of poor engineering the hubs only last 40,000. I will never buy American again, this is just one of 3 other American cars that we own and are crap.

well went to a local mechanic, he suggested changing the break pads and got new wheels it seemed to have eased the problem for a little bit then it came back again and loud too. Going to take it back again this week