What color?

Hey guys. I'm installing my afc neo 2day. I've got 2 a point were im stumped. http://my.prostreetonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133 ,  is what i'm using for reference, thanx 2 the engineer. On the diagram of the pins that go in the ecu. It shows the 6th pin from the left being the throttle signal., and doesnt say the color of the wire coming from the ecu. But here is the thing, in the afc neo wiring diagram by model, it shows it being 3rd from the left on 22p. So which ones correct?...if i new the color of the throttle wire coming from the ecu, i would be able 2 figure it out. Thanx guys. Hopfully somebody is online even tho its a sat. afternoon.

okay after looking here. I'm even more confused. The 3rd one from the left #84 is, Throttle position sensor and the 6th one from the left #87 is, Closed throttle position switch (Idle switch). So which one am i suppose to tap the wire from my neo in to?

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You've confused yourself because you're looking too far into this and you're trying to finish too fast.   Slow down, take a step back and breathe!
86 is the throttle signal, just as the prostreet how-to shows.  Follow Prostreet instructions.  I read over it and everything looks to be correct.  Stop reading their posts though, I think that is confusing you.  Look at that pic of the plug and the Neo connections.

you mean 87 right?...but in tha manual i got with the neo, it says 84 is.

Okay i connected it 2 87....but it will not let me select Karmen mode.

.....Well i just started it and it won't idle but about 10 sec. then die. And during those 10 sec. my afc will just blink and not cum on, then as soon as it dies, it will come on and be workin fine.

Okay so tell me if im wrong here?...when i go 2 hook up my Karmen...the wire coming from my ecu...i cut it and tap the lead with the brown with white stripe wire. Then the other i end, that goes 2 my engine harness i hook my black with white stripe into it. Like this iagrem shows., This is how i did it and it still won't let me select Karmen



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you mean 87 right?...but in tha manual i got with the neo, it says 84 is.

Not 87, sorry about that (86 IS in fact incorrect...counted wrong ).  84 is correct since that is the TPS wire, as the instructions stated.  87 is the Closed Throttle Position switch.  You will get a signal when the TPS is closed (or open, I forget which). **<---this is just an switch that is either on or off.**

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Okay so tell me if im wrong here?...when i go 2 hook up my Karmen...the wire coming from my ecu...i cut it and tap the lead with the brown with white stripe wire. Then the other i end, that goes 2 my engine harness i hook my black with white stripe into it. Like this iagrem shows., This is how i did it and it still won't let me select Karmen



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This may have something to do with the TPS sensor connected to the 87 pin instead of the 84 pin.
According to the wiring on Prosport, you are correct.

I think prostreet just made a mistake, I think it has 2 be 84 not 87. It got dark on me. So 2moro I think ill move it 2 #84 and see if that will actually let my car run for more than 10 sec. and it was smokin like crazy. Never seen it do that before.

Silver i just read your post agin. It seems you said it the same way again., 2 me 86 cant be correct.

Sorry about the confusion.  I was trying to say that 86 is in fact wrong.  I counted over wrong or was looking at the wrong description.
I agree with 84 since that is the TPS (sends a variable signal) signal and not just the closed throttle switch (is either on or off).

I just stared at the prostreet (did I state prosport?) pic again and that orange/silver dashed wire looks to be the 3rd wire from the left of the 22 pin plug.  That's number 84, so chances are that 87 is a typo.

Well It's now working at least when i start my car...i didnt have it grounded right....also it still won't let me select karmen mode, is that a problem?....can i just use a diffrent setting?...plus now when i check my throttle on the afc...its all the way @ 10 and blinking like crazy., and its only idling at 753rpm according to the afc. Anyone willing 2 send me there tune that i can start with?...i know every car is diffrent and i don't need to use it. I just want something to start with. Maybe advocate?...could i start with yours..or is this just a no no.

Well got my afc hooked up........now its time for the aem wideband. Thanx silver for your guidence....I called Apexi and he said I had it on Karman, I just didnt realize it....Now its time 2 learn 2 tune?...Any advice from anyone?...