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shreff99
6/3/2008 8:07:53 AM
...for my '99 GS-T...I was at the dragstrip this past Sunday and did not like my times at all..But it was my first time ever racing too...damn rookie! LOL...So now I have this idea since my now ex-girlfriend left me 2 weeks ago that I'm going to take some of of the cash I had saved for her engagement ring and put it to good use into something that will truly make me happy LOL! I found this kit on SlowboyRacing and was thinking about the Evo III turbo with it...What's your guys' opinions?

SBR 2G Total Package   Click to enlarge Finally, total solutions kit that really is a total solution. We now offer a complete kit, everything needed for a turbo install on your 2g. With this kit, you can choose from either an MHI Small 16g, Big 16g, EVO III 16g (back order), TD05H Bastard 20g, or TD06H Bastard 20g. All turbos have the option to port inlet/outlet and 34mm flapper upgrade. Also included is our Slowboy big cast manifold, 2g install kit with all lines and gaskets/hardware and your choice of colors for silicone, SBR manual boost controller and your choice of o2 housings. Options for o2 housings include EVO III housing, SBR stainless steel recirc housing, or SBR stainless steel o2 housing with dump. There is nothing this kit lacks from were it bolts to the head, down to the oil return and everywhere in between. This combined with our Click Here ultimate fuel package will make for one awesome setup!

Sebba
6/3/2008 8:25:24 AM
Behind those words, I'm sure there is an interesting story.

When I look at that, I don't see anything but the turbo, and other useless stuff. Thats a big price for not a whole lot of 'go'.

The only things you need are:

EVO III 16g (Clipped&Ported + 34mm Flapper) , MBC, Boost gauge, FMIC.  

If I was in your position, I would be looking to do the following:

EVO III 16g + All options
Intake
Turbo Back Exhaust
BOV (recirculated)
MBC
Boost Gauge
FMIC
ACT 2600 w/ Street Disc

Fuel Mods:

650cc Injectors
Apexi SAFC
Wideband Gauge
Walbro 255lph
FPR

shreff99
6/3/2008 9:10:05 AM
That's why I'm here before I buy anything...Thanks dude.

So a MBC over electronic is way better? And an ACT 2600w/Street Disc? My car is an auto so are tranny upgrades hard to find for it? Someone was telling me about some kind of shift kit for it too but I don't know about that. I was getting my best times when I'd stage it and then footbrake it revving it to about 3500-4000 rpm and leaving trying to keep the wheel spin to a minimum but still being able to leave the line decently..With it being a FWD I definitely got some wheel spin but I was also running it on my Nitto NeoGen street tires...Ugh, the drama of owning a FWD and an automatic..I've got a long road ahead of me LOL.
Sebba
6/3/2008 9:18:03 AM
1) So a MBC over electronic is way better?

No sir, but its a hell of a lot cheaper. I mean, they do the same job. The only difference is one is electric and you can change from inside the car, and costs $350, and the other you have to get under the hood and change and costs $50.

2) And an ACT 2600w/Street Disc? My car is an auto so are tranny upgrades hard to find for it?


Whoops, forgot about that. No the stock auto tranny is pretty solid.

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 Someone was telling me about some kind of shift kit for it too but I don't know about that. I was getting my best times when I'd stage it and then footbrake it revving it to about 3500-4000 rpm and leaving trying to keep the wheel spin to a minimum but still being able to leave the line decently..With it being a FWD I definitely got some wheel spin but I was also running it on my Nitto NeoGen street tires...Ugh, the drama of owning a FWD and an automatic..I've got a long road ahead of me LOL.


It's all good dude. The fact that it is SO clean makes up for it.
shreff99
6/3/2008 9:28:13 AM
Right now, I'd be happy with 300-400 hp. Is it achievable with the setup you recommended without having to switch out the block?
Sebba
6/3/2008 9:32:28 AM
Yes, it should put you at about 350.
shreff99
6/3/2008 10:55:32 AM
Sweet Sebbz...thanks man! Any recommendations on the brands or models of the parts you listed? Also a rough guesstimate of cost? Would it be possible to do this for under $3 grand? I already have an Injen air intake and an Apexi N1 full 3 inch turbo-back exhaust.
Sebba
6/3/2008 4:40:51 PM
Geez you want me to bottle feed you? lol j/k

As far as cost... hang on let me tally it up on SBR.

Motor Mods Total: $2017.95

EVO III 16g Turbo 34mm wastegate, turbine inlet and outlet ported ($779)
Greddy Type RS BOV ($205)
Type RS Recirculation Kit ($20)
SBR MBC ($49.95)
Megan Racing Turbo Boost Race Meter ($60) (I picked an expensive one.... it looked nice :P)
SBR 2g FMIC Kit ($904)

Fuel Mods Total: $1145.85

650cc Fuel Injector Clinic Injectors ($289)
Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator for fuel injected engines ($155)
Apexi SAFC Neo ($320)
AEM Uego Wideband ($282.85)
Walbro 255lph fuel pump (not high pressure) ($89)

Grand Total: $3163.80

So a little over 3k, but this is with TOP quality ****, and picking the best of the best. If you were to do a little bargain shopping, you could save $500 easy.

You have any idea how long that took me to put together? lol
shreff99
6/3/2008 6:54:12 PM
Yer the best Sebbz!    You'll make someone a good wife some day! LOL! In all seriousness though, thank you for doing that for me. Now when I go buy the parts, will you come install everything for me? LOL.
Sebba
6/3/2008 7:07:19 PM
Any time, thats what I'm here for.
 
Plane ticket, and I will : )
 
Pretty much everything is bolt on stuff, apart from the AFC Neo that requires a little basic tuning, but its fairly easy for the most part. And gauges....ergh I hate wiring.
EMonz57
6/4/2008 6:46:17 AM
he wont make 350 on that.  He is an auto.  figure in tranny lose because there is a hell of a lot more power lose threw the auto.  he will make like 310ish in comparison i bet.
 
On top the that the MBC vs EBC the only difference is NOT that you dont need to get out of the car to change boost.  EBC's have MANY MANY options that MBCs do not.  for example multi boost setings.  in the Evo I had 3 of them.  one for gate pressure 14 PSI, one for 18 psi and one for 22psi.  all at a push of the button.   on top of that you have built in gauges and peak holds as well as instant replays with some.  I could go on and on.  EBCs are worth the money if you have it IMO
Sebba
6/4/2008 2:53:40 PM
<\\;P>\\;Only some have the instant replay feature, and the spike. A Profec B just has the 2 presets, and thats it. <\\;/P>\\;
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<\\;P>\\;I was talking general...<\\;/P>\\;
EMonz57
6/4/2008 2:58:57 PM
WTF is with your crazy post with all these symbol BS?&\\;nbsp\\; and most EBCs sebba have crazy features all have peak hold setting as far as i know.&\\;nbsp\\; AVCr has the replay I know that and multi boost settings.&\\;nbsp\\; i feel like hks and greddy are a little dated compared to the other stuff out their though
Sebba
6/4/2008 3:20:11 PM
You too ^^^ There is a problem
EMonz57
6/4/2008 3:48:02 PM
Oh snap WTF.
shreff99
6/9/2008 8:29:12 PM
So which EBC would you recommend Mike? I''m close to ordering the sh!t..just gotta figure how much cash to move around my 4 accounts from each account LOL...I have a couple of mechanics at work that will hook everything up for me too...My ex leaving me was the best thing that has happened SO FAR to my GS-T LOL!

I priced my stuff on slowboyracing and was up to about $3600 with an Aeromotive FPR and an EBC. Is there anywhere I could go to save a few more hundred dollars over slowboy? The nice thing about slowboy though, is that it''s only a couple of hours from me (Indiana, PA location) so I could pick everything up instead of paying all the shipping. 
Sebba
6/9/2008 9:59:45 PM
You could pick up the little things on DSMTrader and for sale classifieds.
 
I personally love the Greddy Profec B boost controller
shreff99
6/10/2008 9:00:01 AM
For the mounting of the gauges, could I put them on a pillar or should I just mount them to the dash or something?
 
Sebba
6/10/2008 10:41:01 AM
That is entirely up to you. You can do both.
 
If you are kind of a hands on person, try removing the top vent panel of the dash, and filling it in with bondo. Then cut for the gauges and an SAFC. It actually would look pretty sick, and not ricey if you simply painted it black. Here is how it looked on my mom''s car.
 
You may have to click the attachment and open it up in order to see it. You can see the SAFC and the Greddy Profec B there, and keeping the stock buttons as well, just removing the top two vents.
 
 


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4g64fiero
6/11/2008 9:33:49 AM
I personally would recommend a 50 trim.  That way you can produce 350whp on an auto gsx with pump 93. 
50trim(inexpensive used~500 usd)
880cc injectors(250 usd used and flowtested)
walbro 255lph(90 usd new)
header for 50 trim(300 usd used at most)
fpr new(150 usd or so)
dsm link with laptop(700 usd)
FMIC and pipes off ebay 200usd.
Brand name wastegate~ 200 usd used
1g bov-20 usd.

Waaay cheaper, this i off the top of my head, might of missed some things.
Sebba
6/11/2008 9:58:47 AM
Please don''t comment on something you know little about.
 
I advised the 16g for a reason. The main reason being that I was trying to complete this build on a budget, and the extra fuel mods needed to run a 50trim would throw the build in the $4500 range. NOT waaaay cheaper.
 
Not to mention, NEVER EVER EVER buy things from ebay. I don''t care what it is, if its a performance part, its going to suck.
 
No need to respond,
 
Thanks
4g64fiero
6/11/2008 1:11:11 PM
You had better be joking.

I never said anything about ebay,  all the parts I listed are readily available in classifieds at other forums at the priced I mentioned.  My way actually costs less than the way you proposed.

BTW, how many 600whp cars have you built yourself?

Its asinine to say I dont know anything about dsms.  You definitely dont have this atitude in your posts at dsmtalk-you''d get a hole stomped in your ass.
Sebba
6/11/2008 1:22:13 PM
The forums are pissing me off at the moment, my response is on your PM box.

EDIT: I take that back, it won''t let me do that either.
Sebba
6/11/2008 1:28:45 PM


I hope the quality is enough to read
Kaede.Noir
6/11/2008 1:34:30 PM
LOL, you just had to answer right seb? you''d never cease to amuze me...
Fiero, the kid knows his stuff, hes a smart ass mofo, but hes a dick which is the only reason why he has no credibility on dsmtalk.
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