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IROC R/T
7/20/2005 8:32:55 AM
A guy I know bought a brand new EVO RS edition and is claiming he does 11 second ET's. I know he is BS-ing but I know these cars are capable of mid 13 second 1/4 miles stock at 2,000'. What kind of times are you guy's seeing? The best I seen at the local strip was 13.5 with a good driver. New drivers to the dragstrip don't seem to get into the 13's from what I have seen and seem dissapointed- but I guess that is the usual for anyone new to the dragstrip. Mike
EMonz57
7/20/2005 12:49:54 PM
2005 EVO RS will run a 13.1 stock the RS is the fastest of all the EVOs sold in the US.

now the cars that are not getting 13s stock they are prolly 03/04 EVOs they only run 14.0-14.2s stock. Th 05s are faster because they are lighter(RS and MR) they run 20.5 PSI compared to 16 they have a FLSD and ACD and a 10.5 hotside..

any year with very minimal mods will pull out the 12s easy with bolt ons some sort of a tune and a boost controller.. and with bolt ons a tune boost controller and Cams it is possible to even grab a 11.7-11.9 but 11s are impossible on a stock car

Beside that im sure your buddy has no clue that is car is launch limited too. all of the 05s cant be launched at 5k or higher. unless you remove the 5K limiter. the difference between a 5K launch and a 6K launch is huge. I was reading about a guy with his MR he ran a 13.6 with it limited at the launch when he removed it and launch a 6K he pulled off a 13.2 so 4 tenths of a second better with it off.
IROC R/T
7/20/2005 7:08:36 PM
The 13.1 time that the magazines report are from pro drivers and altitude corrrected and temperature corrected for best possible numbers( not to mention they sometimes get special cars from the manufacturer). From what I have seen in my area you have to add about a half second to the magazine times with a good driver- this is not just the EVO's but all the new cars- 05 mustangs run 14.0 here from what I have seen in stock form. I guess I am looking for real numbers and not the doctored up magazine #'s- believe me there is a big difference in the real world. Thanks for your reply to the thread. Mike
IROC R/T
7/20/2005 7:10:29 PM
I am talking 05's here not older ones. I alway's ask the owners about their cars while in the staging lanes.
EMonz57
7/20/2005 8:54:00 PM
THe MR that I said ran a 13.2 was without the launch limiter and all stock other wise. The RS is faster than the MR it is alot lighter. mainly cause it has no options. ALL i can say is if he doesnt have TBE, boost controller, intake ,UPIC pipe, cams and a Utec, SAFC, Emanage, ect he wont even come close to 11s. mid- low 13s are easily accoplished but thats about it on a stock RS 05. -Mike
EMonz57
7/20/2005 8:55:51 PM
Check out Evolutionm.net you can go over and see some members there and their times with what mods... maybe get you your answer.
IROC R/T
7/20/2005 10:26:53 PM
Thanks! I'll check it out. I was kind of hoping forum members would post some times they get in thier cars also. Mike :)
EMonz57
7/21/2005 6:58:08 AM
Well there arnt alot of members here with EVOs and I havent brought mine to the track. Dont wanna break it yet
IROC R/T
7/21/2005 7:10:44 AM
After reading threads in the other forum all night- it was fun :) I am seeing about the same thing that I have seen at my local dragstrip- mid-13's looks like the norm on a stock 05 and some dissapointment from the owners that were expecting much better. Looks like as usual the better driver they become the better times they get. Mike
EMonz57
7/21/2005 8:06:44 PM
its a drivers game thats the bottom line. I could take mine and run a 17.9 if I wanted to lol

But yes mid 13s for an average driver and no launch limiter on
IROC R/T
7/21/2005 9:30:48 PM
I seen a girl lower her ET in an 04 evo from 16.1- to 15.0 to 14.2 in her first three runs at the track. Her and her friends looked dissapointed at only getting a 14 but I am sure if she stuck with it a 13 second ET would come. Kind of fun to see new drivers with new cars at the strip :).
EMonz57
7/21/2005 9:43:47 PM
Ya the Pre 05 EVOs stock wont break into the 13s stock in MOST cases some have been very very high 13s but I havent seen anything crazy out of a stock 03/04
trinababe
7/22/2005 2:37:47 AM
when the car was stock I ran a 13.6 and that was the best.. may have been 13.5 now I am runnding an 11.5 @ 123.5 so getting better :o)hopefully i will reach my goal for the summer
EMonz57
7/23/2005 10:10:33 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: trinababe

when the car was stock I ran a 13.6 and that was the best.. may have been 13.5 now I am runnding an 11.5 @ 123.5 so getting better :o)hopefully i will reach my goal for the summer


I cant wait till I am in the 11s, but a stock 03 EVO is far from 11s lol. but I got time and ill play around till I get it where I like it
IROC R/T
8/2/2005 8:14:45 AM
When you guy's get near the 11.50 area are you going to put in the required roll cage to run below 11.50 at the dragstrip? With my car I am limiting myself to high 11's to keep from cutting up my interior.
EMonz57
8/2/2005 5:23:41 PM
No im not going to do that. Ill wait to run it and make sure I get a good time then call it quits. and maybe just go easy from there. I'd like to make it hit 10s someday but thats very far off seeing that im all stock right now
IROC R/T
8/2/2005 7:46:41 PM
10's will take a serious effort not to mention lot's of cash and track time...........and a roll cage and probably some weight reduction but it could be a lot of fun. My R/T is 1 of 181 made so all I will do is bolt ons and do nothing that can't be put back to original in the future.
EMonz57
8/2/2005 8:03:52 PM
10s is not that hard of a feet to accoplish in the EVO not saying its easy but there are a hand full of mid 9s out there already and one shooting for 8s. the stock bottom end of the EVO can acheive a little over 500WHP before a buildup is nessesary. at 400WHP high 11s can be hit all day long. 400WHP can be reached with nothing more than your normal boltons a decent tune and Cams(all on the stock 16G) after that go with a new turbo and a little more boost and you are pretty darn close to running in the 10s maybe atleast the low 11 mark at that point.

You gotta keep in mind we get the traction that you dont without some good tires and suspension. The EVO should be able to pull low 1.8s and 1.7s in the 60' without any trouble. but that is a drivers game there.

I am going to have my EVO for very long time so I am in no rush to reach the milestones I want. I am not planning on anything to extreme till the warrenty is almost gone anyway. thats 60K for me and Im only at 16k. so we will see where it takes me
IROC R/T
8/3/2005 8:08:52 AM
I admire the EVO and it's capabilities to go very quick- thats why I joined this forum so I could learn more. I know these cars are very capable of getting in the 10's but from what I have seen it takes a serious effort to get any car like this in the 10's. At my local track I have only seen one turbo-4 car go in the 10's all summer long and it blew up on it's second run.
IROC R/T
8/3/2005 8:27:22 AM
Here's a link to a time on dragtimes.com of 10.9 @132 on an EVO. There are a couple others listed in the 10's as well but this guy lists his mods and has a link to his website so you can see what it takes to get this low of a time and keep it together. Race pistons,rods,crank,30PSI boost, 100HP shot of nitrous and much more. http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-Timeslip-6259.html
EMonz57
8/3/2005 10:50:45 AM
Yes the bottom end needs to be built as well as the top no you do not need N2o to run in 10s. a member named al over on Evolutionm.net ran a 9.98 with no N2o. He is running a GT40R and doesnot have a stroker kit like most others. on the 9.9 run he was running a GT35R. He recently dynod 744AWHP no N2o with his GT40R and it was still on his tune for the 35R. You can hit low 11s all day long with cams an upgraded turbo and normal boltons an tune. the car can make over 500WHP before he bottom end becomes an issue. at 500WHP some of them are touching in the 10s now. check out Evolutionm.net if you want to learn more of these cars there is nothing on this site to learn. there are only 2 of us who have the car as far as I know.
IROC R/T
8/3/2005 6:29:06 PM
744AWHP is a very serious all out effort and is not the type of thing a normal backyard guy is capable of. I agree low 11's can be had but it will be much tougher to do than just bolting on a few parts- you will either have to pay someone big money that knows how to do it or spend lots of time and money yourself trying to sort it all out and many will give up along the way- I see all kinds of guy's take stuff to the dragstrip for the first time and get so depressed over dismal results they never return and they usually say "it should run this time from what I read on the internet" only to be running a second off. Actually talked to a guy that brought an 03 EVO to the strip on Sunday and while we were waiting in the staging lanes I asked what kind of time he was expecting and he said with the way he had it set up it should run 12.7's because he read that others were doing this with the same mods he had on the internet. I watched him do a best of 13.7 that day and I asked how he did and he said 13.2...........
EMonz57
8/3/2005 7:00:14 PM
Oh im not denying that it will take some big money. The guy who had 744 was untuned and its a daily driver. as far as someone expecting to do 12.7 and only getting 13.7 or 13.2 than It may be a driver issue. I have seen guys pull high 1.9 in the 60. when they should be grabbing low 1.8s ive seen alot of low 1.7s as well but its a drivers game. with bolt ons\cams\good tune\C16 you can hit high 11s. My goal as of this time is to hit 12s. and then work my way from there. I was just reading a guts time slips that ran an 11.7 with stock 16G. he got I beleive a GT35R and pushed out a 10.5. on the stock bottom end.

The car has the potencial to get there without a needing the bottom end rebuilt but when your that powerfull you need a good drive because even though its AWD it will spin the tires.
IROC R/T
8/3/2005 8:12:11 PM
I was kind of wondering how the AWD holds up with high HP. What must be done for the drivtrain to hold up to 500HP or more? Ever notice how the guy that is serious about going quick at the dragstrip alway's say's he did not do much to his car and is rather modest but the guy that does all the talk never even drags his car? :)
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