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RE: Hello!!! - 4/25/2007 11:24:55 PM

Sebba

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The 2.4 on the GSX is actually the stock engine just bored out.

Can you provide a source on the internet that backs that up?

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RE: Hello!!! - 4/25/2007 11:28:15 PM

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Yea but the GS is just a little 2.0 so if shes gonna dropp in a new engine might aswell go with a 2.4

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RE: Hello!!! - 4/25/2007 11:31:25 PM

Sebba

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Hang on, i really want to see some place where it says this is possible. If it is i guarentee you someone someplace would have done it. Can you back it up?

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RE: Hello!!! - 4/26/2007 9:56:38 AM

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i want to see this as well, i have never heard of someone doing an engine swap with the gs. The only thing ive seen is a stroker for the 420a

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RE: Hello!!! - 4/26/2007 10:04:46 AM

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ok i just did some quick research on this, and it is by no means a direct swap. There are many things that must be modified in order to do it. This was just part of the list

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- Block from Cloud cars: Stratus, Cirrus, Sebring,(years?)
- Remove balance shafts, plug oil holes
- Rotate cam sensor 90*(advanced or retard?)
- rewire the injectors moving 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, and 4-1.
- must swap wires 1 and 3 running to coil.
- modified pt cruiser p/s bracket
- custom passanger side motor mount
- Moddified Oil Pan (2001 Dodge Stratus oil pan works well?)
- custom downpipe
- Time head like 2.0
- Can use SRT4 pistons and rods for a boost capable engine

Then there was also stuff on the oil pump and belt system from an srt-4. This is once again by no means an easy direct swap

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RE: Hello!!! - 5/3/2007 6:11:45 PM

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oh my god!!! You wouldn't guess my great news...okay maybe you would but anyway my car is back running again and pretty much there was no problem i just had to blow the problem out--i'm not sure if i explained what happened but it was the fact that the tip of the spark plug broke off and i'm thinking was stuck in a valve......anyway...who cares its gone and my baby is back on the road...watch your back little boys with HoNdAs!

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RE: Hello!!! - 5/3/2007 6:14:26 PM

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Glad to hear its runing again

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RE: Hello!!! - 5/3/2007 6:36:25 PM

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Ooops, apparently this is off topic....reading back to page two that is. My bad.
Most Chrysler motors do use the same trannys. My old A604/41TE/Ultradrive on my 6g73 is used on the 420a also, with slight differences.

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There are 4 different types of units. The differences between the types are the bell housing bolt pattern and valve body assemblies. The first type was used for the 2.5 L engine, second type for the 6G72 V6, third type for the 3.3 L and 3.8 L V6s and the fourth type for the 2.0 L and 2.4 L engines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultradrive

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ORIGINAL: Clipse1

Yea but the GS is just a little 2.0 so if shes gonna dropp in a new engine might aswell go with a 2.4

The problem with this is deck height considerations. You can't "just" drop in a motor without a certain amount of modifications...even a drop in. What I've found out about DCX is that they use different variations of the same motor/tranny, no matter who it made it. They make it "their own". Like the 6g72/6g73s for example. Almost as if they design the motor around the car and not the car around the motor. Blah, anyway...

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ORIGINAL: Sebba

The 2.4 on the GSX is actually the stock engine just bored out.

Can you provide a source on the internet that backs that up?

This is where a 4g64 block is swapped in. I've got this planned for when I get back onto the mainland.
http://4g64.150m.com/faq.html
found here... http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166806&highlight=4g64+swap
It's been done, not just on a Spyder, but GS-Ts and GSXs. 4g64 2.4L + 4g63 2.0L = lots of breath up top on large turbos +.

...but that also means that you will have the same issues concerning swapping this motor into an RS/GS.

OP, glad to hear that you fixed your issue too