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RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 11/24/2007 8:14:01 AM    mkaresh   Posts: 48 Joined: 4/23/2007 Status: offline Need just six more 2007s to start collecting data on that year. Auto reliability research -- need more Outlanders! _____________________________ truedelta.com Vehicle reliability, fuel economy, and price comparison information (in reply to mkaresh) Post #: 11

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 11/25/2007 6:36:13 PM    Radialman4360 Posts: 34 Joined: 9/4/2007 Status: offline Just signed up. Rob (in reply to mkaresh) Post #: 12

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/18/2007 9:03:10 AM    mkaresh   Posts: 48 Joined: 4/23/2007 Status: offline Thanks, Rob. The 2007 is now included in the main survey. That said, the number of owners is right at the bare minimum, so additional participants would help a great deal. Mitsubhishi Outlander reliability research _____________________________ truedelta.com Vehicle reliability, fuel economy, and price comparison information (in reply to Radialman4360) Post #: 13

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/18/2007 11:57:38 PM    OTO27 Posts: 486 Joined: 2/11/2007 Status: offline Just signed up for this. (in reply to mkaresh) Post #: 14

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/19/2007 1:52:48 PM    abadlot   Posts: 5 Joined: 12/13/2007 Status: offline OK just signed up! I've read you review.... You don't like the car too much..... (in reply to OTO27) Post #: 15

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/19/2007 3:21:14 PM    mkaresh   Posts: 48 Joined: 4/23/2007 Status: offline As noted in the review, I drove the FWD ES model. I think I'd like the AWD XLS much better, but the only one they had at the time was parked inside the showroom. Either way, it's just my opinion. I tell people all the time that it shouldn't much matter what I think. If you drive a car, and like it even after considering my critique, then I'd say you should buy it. < Message edited by mkaresh -- 12/19/2007 4:30:04 PM > _____________________________ truedelta.com Vehicle reliability, fuel economy, and price comparison information (in reply to abadlot) Post #: 16

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/20/2007 11:52:17 AM    dodo2   Posts: 273 Joined: 2/21/2007 Status: offline Signed up too. While on the web site, I read the review too. I found it pretty biased especially after I read the CRV and RAV4 reviews. The general discrepancy between the owners’ reviews and the "expert" reviews still amazes me. (in reply to mkaresh) Post #: 17

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/20/2007 8:54:27 PM    mkaresh   Posts: 48 Joined: 4/23/2007 Status: offline Please don't toss the term "bias" about. This suggests that I went into the test drive looking to criticize the Outlander. This was not the case. I head into my test drives with an open mind. The FWD LS just didn't feel good to me. In general, the level of refinement seemed much lower than in the Honda or Toyota. If you check my review of the Saturn VUE, you'll find I similarly think that V6 needs AWD to keep torque steer under control. The RAV4 V6 I drove had AWD. The Honda, on the other hand, doesn't have enough torque for torque steer to be much of an issue. _____________________________ truedelta.com Vehicle reliability, fuel economy, and price comparison information (in reply to dodo2) Post #: 18

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/20/2007 11:23:38 PM    goldenboy   Posts: 58 Joined: 10/9/2007 Status: offline i just signed up too and in my opinion, the outlander review posted was half baked mainly because the review was made drawing impressions from a trim level that you really werent intending to review what im trying to say is maybe if you had reviewed an XLS from the start, then all the speculative impresions, in favor or against the outlander, wouldve been ommitted and the inferences more legitimate and objective just my 2 cents btw, i agree with dodo2... its just amazing how contrary the expert reviews have been when put beside consumer reviews/ experiences < Message edited by goldenboy -- 12/20/2007 11:29:30 PM > (in reply to mkaresh) Post #: 19

RE: Mitsubishi Outlander reliability - how does it comp... - 12/20/2007 11:45:57 PM    mkaresh   Posts: 48 Joined: 4/23/2007 Status: offline I do appreciate that all three of you have signed up to participate in the research even though you don't like the review. Not everyone has the ability to separate the two things. I believe my review is legitimate as a review of the specific vehicle I drove. I just checked the review, and I do say this right in the intro: "I would have preferred to drive an AWD XLS, the top trim complete with attractive 18-inch alloys. However, the only XLS was parked in the showroom. Outside were a pair of the base trim front-drive ES, complete with the special intro price of $19,990 plus $625 destination. So take this review with a grain of salt--an AWD XLS would likely do better." How many reviewers are careful enough to clearly make that sort of distinction? Not many in my experience. Instead, on other forums I've found debates over why the Camry recently finished first in one comparison test and last in another. One big part of the reason: one test included the SE trim, while the other included the much more softly sprung XLE. I will grant it's not the most polished review. I drive the car, then I sit down at the computer and quickly bang something out. Some people like the resulting directness. Others would like more polish. No doubt we're going to have to agree to disagree here. If you didn't like the Outlander, you wouldn't have bought it. I'm fine with you liking it. With some people, if you don't agree with their opinions then you're clearly an idiot. I don't think that way at all: tastes and evaluations are going to vary, and it's not really possible to pick one as the right one. The world would be much more boring otherwise. Finally, you have to give me one thing: how many other reviewers have had anything decent to say about the Outlander's third-row seat? _____________________________ truedelta.com Vehicle reliability, fuel economy, and price comparison information (in reply to goldenboy) Post #: 20

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