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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/2/2007 2:19:10 PM

tdford

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Ours is not like those, so you can pretty much use it on any surface at any speed within reason.

This is where common sense kicks in...

chenarm try using CAPS LOCK next time...

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/3/2007 8:01:46 AM

morten

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ORIGINAL: tdford

2WD Mode: Only front wheels with ATC
4WD Auto: Only front wheels with ATC, when ATC kicks up to 50% will be sent to rear wheels
4WD Lock: 50-50 to front and rear wheels with ATC

07-08 models do not have a locking differential, and is an Electronically controlled 4WD. So you CAN put into 4WD Lock on ANY surface, because the differential isnt locked. ALL wheels spin at different speeds. Which is what you want when you have slick surfaces to stop wheel spin. If you want wheel spin, like messing around in snow, turn off the ATC.

As far as what speed you can change modes.... 4WD Auto - any speed. 4WD Lock - I think the manual says, but probably no higher than 55-60. I will look to see.

I just wanted to point out that 4D Lock does NOT lock the centre differential, nor does it give a 50/50 distribution.
4D Auto is 60/40 front/rear. 4D Lock is 40/60 with a more agressive use of the rear wheels.
The Outie has a centre diff in the form of an electronically controlled clutch, mounted on the rear diff.

Complete details can be found here:
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2006083040260&mime=ASC

Cheers,

-Morten

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/3/2007 10:55:05 AM

tdford

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ORIGINAL: morten
I just wanted to point out that 4D Lock does NOT lock the centre differential, nor does it give a 50/50 distribution.
4D Auto is 60/40 front/rear. 4D Lock is 40/60 with a more agressive use of the rear wheels.
The Outie has a centre diff in the form of an electronically controlled clutch, mounted on the rear diff.

Complete details can be found here:
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2006083040260&mime=ASC

Cheers,

-Morten

GREAT link. Thats what we needed here to clear up all questions. As I said before, there is NO locking differential. Thanks for clearing up the 60/40 thing, I thought it was up to 50/50. But thats even better! Up to 60% of torque can be sent to the rears. Just click the link, all questions should be answered.

"The driver can freely change the drive mode at any time."

"In dry conditions, 4WD Lock mode places priority on performance."

"Rear wheel torque transfer is increased by 50 percent over the amounts in 4WD Auto mode - meaning up to 60 percent of available torque is sent to the rear wheels under full-throttle acceleration on dry pavement."

"When in 4WD Lock mode, torque at the rear wheels is reduced by a smaller degree through corners than with 4WD Auto mode."

"At low speeds through tight corners, coupling torque is reduced, providing a smoother feel through the corner."

So as the info states, you can change the mode when ever you feel like it. Slow, fast, turning, wet, dry, doest matter. Which is what we want, and is great.

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/3/2007 1:35:11 PM

Kwanger

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tdford

quote:

ORIGINAL: morten
I just wanted to point out that 4D Lock does NOT lock the centre differential, nor does it give a 50/50 distribution.
4D Auto is 60/40 front/rear. 4D Lock is 40/60 with a more agressive use of the rear wheels.
The Outie has a centre diff in the form of an electronically controlled clutch, mounted on the rear diff.

Complete details can be found here:
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2006083040260&mime=ASC

Cheers,

-Morten

Thanks for clearing up the 60/40 thing, I thought it was up to 50/50. But thats even better! Up to 60% of torque can be sent to the rears. Just click the link, all questions should be answered.

I thought the same - it's great its even better!!

Thanks Morten, great link.

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/3/2007 4:54:27 PM

chili_g

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On a loosely related, non-technical note...
I put it to the test today - going up VT-Rt.17 (Appalachian Gap) - a very steep twisty road - in the middle of the storm today past Mad River Glen and it was a rock! I even paddle shifted to 1 on descents and really tight switchbacks.
I was very pleased.

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/4/2007 11:19:52 AM

chenarm

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If your Caps Lock comment is about the font that came out in my last post, I apologies, I edited my comment in word and did a copy and paste, not sure exactly why the font came out that way, it was not intentional.

I will admit that I was wrong about the car being damaged (other than the tires) when "Lock" is used, but it's not because the mode is inoffensive, it's because the vehicle will detect a potential problem and automatically switch modes in order to protect itself.

As an aside, we had 14 inches of snow yesterday; using Lock in very harsh conditions certainly makes a very big difference.

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/7/2007 5:30:44 AM

roach

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Here's a how it work from mitsubishi
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2006083040260&mime=ASC

And if you click on the right on download files (there's one in word format) you have graph explanation and all that.

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RE: best time to put in 4x4 - 12/15/2007 7:47:58 AM

Fisherman

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.......... The system will not switch modes while moving, you can switch it while moving, but nothing will actually happen until you get to a slow enough speed to prevent damage. .........

I do not know what you consider "slow enough", as it will engage (change modes) at highway speed (70mph). I have done so many times while pulling my boat / car dolly and you can feel the difference in how the vehicle handles immediately. In 2wd, when towing a heavy load, the steering is very light and the vehicle floats around, as soon as 4wd lock is selected, no more floating around and the steering is back to normal due to power being applied at the rear wheels.

Morten & Roach, Thanks for the facts in the links above. I read all the info on the Mitsu site when shopping for this vehicle 8 months ago. It would be nice if folks would do a little research before they comment about something they do not actually KNOW about. I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who....

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