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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/2/2007 4:30:23 PM   
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That does seem a little weird....I'm pretty happy with the gas milage on the new Outlander.

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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/2/2007 8:47:33 PM   
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You should be happy because my Outtie gets 18.84 MPG on conservative city/highway driving!  It just sucks, sucks, sucks!  Once I only got 16.64 a few weeks ago!  Mine is way broken in at 89,000 miles (a 2003 Outlander XLS, non-MIVEC engine).  I used to get about 22-23 MPG in the same driving conditions, but it went downhill overnight last year and none of the dealers, garages, etc. can diagnose the problem.  Oddly, there is no difference in the drive of the vehicle - same power, acceleration, noise, etc.  Can't figure it out!

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Fuel consumption..
Brand new 2006 Outlander SE.
4 speed automatic transmission
2.4L I4, 16-Valve, SOHC, MPFI engine
horsepower 160@5750
torque 162@4000.

The dealer said it will do better once the motor breaks in.. time will tell..


12/11/2006, New, Full tank, 000045 km, Just picked it up,
Cost, Odometer, Liters, trip meter, type,
12/15/2006, (83.9) $45, 000471, 53.6, city,
12/22/2006, (87.9) $47, 000847, 53.5, 375.5, city,
12/25/2006, (94.1) $46.50, 001265, 49, 417, highway,
12/26/2006, (88.3) $44, 001750, 50, 485, highway,
12/27/2006, (86.8) $46, 002213, 53, 462, highway,

Distance
2213- 45 = 2168km
Liters = 259.1
km/L = 8.367
L/100km = 11.95
MPG = 19.68

First time I did the math on this.. the dealer better be right because that miliage sucks!!
what happend to "It has an EPA fuel economy rating of 21 city/27 highway miles per gallon."

** I relies I didn't put temperature and that can really effect fuel efficiency.. it
has been between +5°C and -10°C for the last 3 weeks. Toronto Ontario canada


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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/2/2007 9:00:19 PM   
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07 outlander.. 20 if i drive highway at 75.. sux.. really sux.. and in the city.. about 220 per tankload including the reserve

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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/3/2007 8:30:21 AM   
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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/3/2007 8:32:40 AM   
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That sounds like it could be an 02 (oxygen) sensor.. This happens on my brothers safari all the time it seems.. Suddenly his gas mileage will drop and the computer says everything is normal. he replaces the oxygen sensor and mileage goes back up.. Unfortunately for him he seems to replace this thing every 6 to 8 months.. Just a thought. talk to you local mechanic to get his 2 cents...

Good luck
Will 

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You should be happy because my Outtie gets 18.84 MPG on conservative city/highway driving!  It just sucks, sucks, sucks!  Once I only got 16.64 a few weeks ago!  Mine is way broken in at 89,000 miles (a 2003 Outlander XLS, non-MIVEC engine).  I used to get about 22-23 MPG in the same driving conditions, but it went downhill overnight last year and none of the dealers, garages, etc. can diagnose the problem.  Oddly, there is no difference in the drive of the vehicle - same power, acceleration, noise, etc.  Can't figure it out!


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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/3/2007 8:51:47 PM   
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am' pounding my 07' heavy foot that is....sweet mivec 6.  so ryyte now, my fuel keeps going up....lolz

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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/3/2007 9:14:54 PM   
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Could be...  I'm having my 90,000 mile service soon (I've got 89,000 on it right now).  At that time, I'll be replacing the spark plugs and wires, and bunch of other stuff.  If things don't improve, then I'll have the O2 sensors looked at.  Thing is that the cost of replacing each sensor is about the same as the cost of my increased annual  fuel consumption.  So, it only becomes cost effective to change both O2 sensors if I keep the thing for more than 2 years.  More than 1 year if I only change one of the sensors.  Anyway, even if I change the O2 sensors, there is no guarantee that it would fix the problem.  I was planning to keep this at most until the end of 2008 (2 years max).

Oh, what a dilemma!


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ORIGINAL: renderw

That sounds like it could be an 02 (oxygen) sensor.. This happens on my brothers safari all the time it seems.. Suddenly his gas mileage will drop and the computer says everything is normal. he replaces the oxygen sensor and mileage goes back up.. Unfortunately for him he seems to replace this thing every 6 to 8 months.. Just a thought. talk to you local mechanic to get his 2 cents...

Good luck
Will 

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ORIGINAL: TinkerMan

You should be happy because my Outtie gets 18.84 MPG on conservative city/highway driving!  It just sucks, sucks, sucks!  Once I only got 16.64 a few weeks ago!  Mine is way broken in at 89,000 miles (a 2003 Outlander XLS, non-MIVEC engine).  I used to get about 22-23 MPG in the same driving conditions, but it went downhill overnight last year and none of the dealers, garages, etc. can diagnose the problem.  Oddly, there is no difference in the drive of the vehicle - same power, acceleration, noise, etc.  Can't figure it out!



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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/9/2007 1:14:56 AM   
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I get 260mi/13gal = 20 mpg. (2006 Outlander LS 2WD Auto).

Thats 30% City / 70% Hwy.

Highway speed = 65-70 mph. @ 3000 rpm.

I live in SoCal, fill-up with Shell 87 Octane Gas most of the time.

Just a note: The sign on the pump says the gas may contain up to 10% ethanol.
Ethanol lowers your economy by approx. 5%. Plus the fact that the EPA mileage
is calculated in laboratory conditions (constant engine speed, no A/C) etc.

http://www.carbibles.com/fuel_engine_bible.html

The Outtie really needs an overdrive gear. Other than the economy, excellent car.


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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/9/2007 2:03:46 PM   
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dude.. mine sux... i'm on the highway within 10 minutes and then drive 150miles and my avg mileage is 20mpg.  No AC / cruising at 70.  In the city i get an avg of 12-13mpg.

Its crap.. they are liars.. 19-26mpg bs!

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RE: What's your gas milage? - 1/10/2007 2:54:12 PM   
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The EPA tests are somewhat flawed because the lab tests are not necessarily real world.  On the highway, they do reach 60 mph for a brief time frame, however the in a 10 minute test, the average speed is 48 mph (no AC)

Even though their dyno may adjust load accordingly, because the Outlander (and SUV's in general) present a nice size projected area, the increase is drag force is probably not represented in the test.

iirc, the simplied Drag Force equation (in scalar terms) is (1/2)*rho*velocity^2*area*Cd

Coefficient of drag for the 2G Outlander is 0.43

One thing to note is, the force is proportional to the square of the velocity--- this is important people don't typically average 48 mph on the highway.  it's usually 65+, and that is a good difference.  If you compare 48 mph & 65 mph (everything else is constant), at 65 mph, the drag force is almost 2x much as 48 mph.

Putting all this science aside.... Captain Obvious will tell you faster you drive, the more gas you burn.  Since the EPA highway estimates are nowhere close to matching reality, that's why you experience the discrepany.  For 2008, EPA will have new procedures to include faster speeds with AC on-- so when you compare a 2007 EPA sticker to the 2008 sticker, you'll likely to see the numbers fall.

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