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Manybrews -> RE: Fluid change (8/18/2006 7:07:13 PM)
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ORIGINAL: redtide265
I really don't think that $20 for a filter and gasket every 20-30,000 miles is going to break anyones budget.
Not using synthetic motor oil in vehicles that don't need them (such as this particular vehicle) will save a heck of a lot more money than not having to remove/replace a transmission filter. Of course, there is nothing wrong with running synthetics, but vehicles will still run without them.
first, one of the MAIN things car manufacturers look at to sell their cars is cost of ownership. ANYTHING that can be done to minimize repairs/maintenence is money in their pockets. and its beneficial to the consumer, too, as it means the car has been developed to last longer.
Also, synthetic oils are pretty much a waste in 99 percent of the cars that people put them in. the ONLY time they are of any benefit is extreem temperature conditions. Any other time they have absolutly no benefit, and in fact there is some proof that synthetics cause more long term wear.
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Could have fooled me there. Granted, I don't work on cars all day, but my truck ('96 Dodge Dakota) has one, my friends '95 Ford Taurus had one, friends dads '04 GMC Savanna's got one, and all the currect Dodge trucks have them, their not built "into" the transmission, but sit right there when you take the tranny pan off. Must be a mostly Japenese thing.
if you look, most of those trannies are probably never meant to be serviced.
all of GMs current front drive trannies have no dipstick. they have no drain. They are "lifetime" sealed units. Toyota has only a drain on their trannies (as does mitsu), because all you need to do it drain and fill (and in case you didnt realize, Asian-warner trannies are the best on the planet, having been used by not only toyota, but mitsu, isuzu, jeep, volvo, and many, many other companies.).
you must modify your way of thinking. Transmissions do not develope the same corrosive chemicals that engines do; they arent subjected to combustion. So they only need to deal with normal wear and degradation of the fluid. The latter is taken care of by routine fluid changes, the first is taken care of by whatever miniscule filter is present, and a magnet.
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Let me guess, there's probably also no magnet in the transmission pan to collect metal filings THAT DO INFACT OCCUR IN EVERY TRANSMISSION. And you would probably by the BS engineers tell you if they did not include one.
the magnet is part of the drain plug. If you actually looked rather than bitched, you would know this.
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I won't sit here and argue anymore because some stupid engineers choose not to make a servieable filter (and oh my, why should we argue with them, their the ones with degrees!). You can buy their BS, I'll stick to owning vehicles that have them, and will replace them when I change the fluid, it gives me a piece of mind.
your way of thinking is archaic. this isnt 1971 anymore; cars are engineered 1000 times better. and the "servicable filter" you rave about is not the saving grace of a transmission, as there are many transmissions that dont technically have a "filter" on them. in the old days, the only reason filters got changed (assuming someone actually even changed the fluid in the first place) was because of the IDIOTIC way the americans did it. Requiring a total pan removal is idiotic, messy, and a pain in the ass. The japanese realize that the filter does NOT need to be changed, only the fluid. Hence we have drain plugs on the trannies, and automatic trans quality light years beyond anything the americans made. I cant think of a japanese car that requires anything but a fluid change for their autos. Mitsu, toyota, honda, nissan.. just drain and fill. hell, mitsu actually HAD a secondary screw on filter for the trans you have in your endeavor when it was introduced in 96, but realized it was more of a hassle than anything because it didnt do anything. No one ever changed them, and the redundancy of it prooved to be a waste of money.
In case you didnt realize it, the americans have finally righted themselves in that most new trannies have a drain with no other service necessary. Your average consumer cannot even check the fluid level on a GM car without taking it to a shop.
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