4g15 turbo vs. 4g63?
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4g15 turbo vs. 4g63? - 8/10/2006 7:17:06 PM
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whooliopreludee
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how's it going, i have a dilemma, i want to turbo my 98 mirage, i was looking online and i see kits from 220Hp to 300hp, but the220 seems the most logical for me, no internal mods need to be done the kit is about $4,000. now i know the 4g63 has more aftermarket support that the "15" but how much would it cost to get the evo or 'clipse turbo engine and tranny plus installation. anyone know if the evo engine plus tranny and install is close to also 4 grand?
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RE: 4g15 turbo vs. 4g63? - 8/10/2006 7:27:03 PM
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davidmitsusrock
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the eclips 4g63 will be cheaper becouse its an older engine but im sure with tranny, motor, and install your lookin at a minimum of 4 grand.
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RE: 4g15 turbo vs. 4g63? - 8/10/2006 8:17:03 PM
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whooliopreludee
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also it is an auto and i want it stickshift how hard is that to do?, i also want something that it is straightforward install, does the eclipse turbo engine require modification to install into the mirage?
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RE: 4g15 turbo vs. 4g63? - 8/10/2006 8:29:59 PM
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davidmitsusrock
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yes there will be modification and you will need a whole new tranny for the 5 speed, i suggest going to www.4g61t.org
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RE: 4g15 turbo vs. 4g63? - 8/12/2006 10:48:11 AM
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Lil Evo
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but if you plan on going with a 4g63T, plan on spending no less than $10,000. Eclipse/Talon engines and trannies WILL NOT bolt in and require a huge amount of fabrication and customization. Evo I-VI engines and trannies will not drop in because the JDM Evo's operate on a slightly different chasis, not to mention that unless you can come across a JDM Evo V or VI front clip, they're not even the same generation. If you're wanting 4g63 power, you'll have to find an Evo VII or VIII to donate the engine, tranny, ECU, wiring harness, pedal assembly, custom fabrication for the AWD, new guage cluster, ect. ect. ect. When it's all said and done, you've got an Evo powered rage that will dominate all but for a few thousand more you could just buy an actual Evo and save yourself the hassle.
EDIT: Yes, the 4g63T swap has been done many times into a Mirage/Summit, but you'll notice that all the cars that have received the swap have been 4th gen cars. Anything 1997 and up is a 5th gen car and your options for swaps is severely limited. Off the top of my head, there's the obvious 4g63T out of a USDM Evo that will cost you an arm and a leg, the 6a13 (I think that's the engine anyway) that nobody state-side has ever done, but it is possible, and the 4g93 (which will be, by far the easiest swap).
Here's my suggestion, sell your car and buy a 97+ LS coupe or ES sedan Mirage 5spd with fairly low miles, or if you can find a wrecked one with the engine and tranny still in good shape you can just use it as a donor car and swap into your current car. I recomend the LS or ES because they have the 4g93 and you'll see a lot more power out of the 1.8 than you will the 1.5. From there, build your own turbo kit. Piecing it together will be a lot cheaper than buying from RPW and waiting for a year to get all your parts. The toughest thing to get ahold of is the manifold, but there are plenty of shops that will do custom manifolds. Other than that, everything is readily available and you can put together a good kit for under $2500.
< Message edited by Lil Evo -- 8/12/2006 10:56:43 AM >
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