RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions.....
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 8/30/2006 6:28:38 PM
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Manybrews
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Wow this is the first time i read this for some reason. I always love a good argument. Manybrews, so you are saying that if someone broke a t-case on it and then had mods like emonz has (mostly bolt on), put it all back to stock and brought it in. The mechanic would look everywhere trying to find modifications on it, or any trace of it. Cuz personally i think all i would do is the usual, look at the exhaust to make sure there is a cat and then look in the engine bay. If everything apears stock then i wouldnt look any further for "traces of tampering"
im saying that transfer cases dont fail, and if they do have some type of catastophic failure, 99 percent of the time it will be from modification of abuse.
Give you an example. NEVER in 15 years of fixing mitsus have I had a piston "fail". One day, about 3 years ago, some young guy came in with a lot of engine knock on his 03 V6 eclipse.
it was fishy right away, because the intake was clean as a whistle, but the engine was filthy. we got an okay to tear it down, as we told the customer if its warrantable mitsu will cover it.
I pull the engine apart and found 5 cracked pistons. Since that is pretty much an impossibility on a stock engine, I examined the intake a bit more. I found the large hole drilled in the bulkhead.. I found the bottle mount holes in the trunk... I found all the traces of nitrous, but yet it was removed. Hmmm.
turns out the kid came clean in the end, saying it started knocking after his 100 shot on the track. although mitsu didnt cover the repair, his honesty DID get him a free teardown as he was going to be charged for the 6 hours of labor that was into the car already. Because he did admit to it (which most nitwits never do), mitsu agreed to eat the 6 hours even though the failure had nothing at all to do with mitsus product.
ultimatly, your modifications can cost you your warranty. In an event like that, it will be a very expensive out of pocket cost.
thats why Ive always wondered why people modify their car when its under warranty! Half the reason for buying a new car is to not worry about it, and now with the 100K warranty its like heaven for most.
buy to each his/her own.
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 8/30/2006 6:44:05 PM
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im saying that transfer cases dont fail, and if they do have some type of catastophic failure, 99 percent of the time it will be from modification of abuse.
Give you an example. NEVER in 15 years of fixing mitsus have I had a piston "fail". One day, about 3 years ago, some young guy came in with a lot of engine knock on his 03 V6 eclipse.
it was fishy right away, because the intake was clean as a whistle, but the engine was filthy. we got an okay to tear it down, as we told the customer if its warrantable mitsu will cover it.
I pull the engine apart and found 5 cracked pistons. Since that is pretty much an impossibility on a stock engine, I examined the intake a bit more. I found the large hole drilled in the bulkhead.. I found the bottle mount holes in the trunk... I found all the traces of nitrous, but yet it was removed. Hmmm.
turns out the kid came clean in the end, saying it started knocking after his 100 shot on the track. although mitsu didnt cover the repair, his honesty DID get him a free teardown as he was going to be charged for the 6 hours of labor that was into the car already. Because he did admit to it (which most nitwits never do), mitsu agreed to eat the 6 hours even though the failure had nothing at all to do with mitsus product.
ultimatly, your modifications can cost you your warranty. In an event like that, it will be a very expensive out of pocket cost.
thats why Ive always wondered why people modify their car when its under warranty! Half the reason for buying a new car is to not worry about it, and now with the 100K warranty its like heaven for most.
buy to each his/her own.
ManyBrews, you said it crystal clear. Your modifications "can" cost your warranty but it doesn't mean it always will cost your warranty. In fact, I recently talked to the Mitsubishi tech where I'm at and he "told" me, in the event of a problem with my Evo, they would "NOT" void my warrant with my current mods unless they were %100 sure it caused the failure. To me it looks as though it depends on the dealer. By the way, your story above with the shot of nitrous is pretty extreme and it was obvious it caused the failure....
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 8/30/2006 8:32:27 PM
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there are worse things to worry about in the world polution wise and otherwise than a car with no CAT or emmsions control
I cannot believe that anyone exists today on our planet and still thinks that this type of thinking is okay. Apparently you've never been to a city with more than 2000 people. Ever been to L.A? any basin town? most major cities are not healthy to breath the air in. Better yet, try a country where there are no clean air standards. gross.
you think your car is clean? its not. all those devices were installed because the evo is a dirty car to begin with.
Also, it has been proven time and time again by every manufacturer on the planet that you can go fast without polluting. I have never understood why the first thing people do to "mod" their cars is remove the emission equipment.
you can get plenty of power without that.
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you can have no pitty on me I have no cat, and I tuned my EVO which actually saved me gas milage I get 70-100 miles to a tank now and still runs very safe AFRs lol
yeah, Im sure its clean as a whistle. Tell you what, try running an IM240 test. Then you can tell me to shut my yap.
until then I will disagree strongly with many of the modifications people do which Im allowed to do.
DID I say my car runs clean??? NO , Have I lived in a city yes Ive lived in tampa and been to many others I understand the polution but dont figgen start to tell me its the cars with hollowed out cats causeing the big prolem. Belive me I understand your point and respect opinion\facts you bring I know my car is not clean and wont pass emmisions go live in tampa there is no emmisions testing and the entire state of florida in general is just plain dirty but my car is less of a problem then the guy how is driving on a blown headgasket and in FL cars like that are everywhere then they pile up on the side of the road abandoned. eithere way its not making me put a CATback in.
Ps ^^^ this is completely off the warrenty thing. I agree with you mostly on the warrenty subject.
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 8/30/2006 8:38:29 PM
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EMonz57
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ORIGINAL: TheEngineer
Wow this is the first time i read this for some reason. I always love a good argument. Manybrews, so you are saying that if someone broke a t-case on it and then had mods like emonz has (mostly bolt on), put it all back to stock and brought it in. The mechanic would look everywhere trying to find modifications on it, or any trace of it. Cuz personally i think all i would do is the usual, look at the exhaust to make sure there is a cat and then look in the engine bay. If everything apears stock then i wouldnt look any further for "traces of tampering"
im saying that transfer cases dont fail, and if they do have some type of catastophic failure, 99 percent of the time it will be from modification of abuse.
Give you an example. NEVER in 15 years of fixing mitsus have I had a piston "fail". One day, about 3 years ago, some young guy came in with a lot of engine knock on his 03 V6 eclipse.
it was fishy right away, because the intake was clean as a whistle, but the engine was filthy. we got an okay to tear it down, as we told the customer if its warrantable mitsu will cover it.
I pull the engine apart and found 5 cracked pistons. Since that is pretty much an impossibility on a stock engine, I examined the intake a bit more. I found the large hole drilled in the bulkhead.. I found the bottle mount holes in the trunk... I found all the traces of nitrous, but yet it was removed. Hmmm.
turns out the kid came clean in the end, saying it started knocking after his 100 shot on the track. although mitsu didnt cover the repair, his honesty DID get him a free teardown as he was going to be charged for the 6 hours of labor that was into the car already. Because he did admit to it (which most nitwits never do), mitsu agreed to eat the 6 hours even though the failure had nothing at all to do with mitsus product.
ultimatly, your modifications can cost you your warranty. In an event like that, it will be a very expensive out of pocket cost.
thats why Ive always wondered why people modify their car when its under warranty! Half the reason for buying a new car is to not worry about it, and now with the 100K warranty its like heaven for most.
buy to each his/her own.
totally agreed with this... the TC's only fail from abuse plain and simple I say the same goes for the EVO stock clutch, ya they are weak when you do 7k launches all the damn time and average EVO owner I know only is getting 20-25k on the stock clutch there is good reason why mine still grabs like new with almost 40k on the clock. I dont beat my car even though I have some mods it is hardly beaten I will give it the gas as anyone would but not all the time and I never drop the clutch(in all honesty I think I did maybe 3 times just to try it and yes if it broke It would be on my back and out of my pocket that is part of the game)
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 9/1/2006 5:54:06 PM
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Manybrews
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ManyBrews, you said it crystal clear. Your modifications "can" cost your warranty but it doesn't mean it always will cost your warranty. In fact, I recently talked to the Mitsubishi tech where I'm at and he "told" me, in the event of a problem with my Evo, they would "NOT" void my warrant with my current mods unless they were %100 sure it caused the failure. To me it looks as though it depends on the dealer. By the way, your story above with the shot of nitrous is pretty extreme and it was obvious it caused the failure....
oh, sure.. Im not saying a muffler is gonna cost you a warranty. But I am warning that constant modifying can lead to loss of it.
once a person starts, it usually doesnt stop.
but to each their own. I like my diamante stock. it now has 198000 miles on it with EVERY driveline part bone stock original. it starts, runs great, zips me down the road at 80MPH all day long in silence, and gets 25 MPG doing it.
of course, a diamante isnt usually a candidate for "mods".
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 9/1/2006 6:35:46 PM
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XTREME
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Not too bad for diamante. I have a 1993 Toyota Pickup with 298,000 mi on it. Runs like a champ!! Unfortunately I doubt my Evo will see past 150,000 mi with the mods I have but it will be much more exciting than the truck!! 
< Message edited by XTREME -- 9/1/2006 6:36:37 PM >
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RE: just got an 05 evo, got questions..... - 9/1/2006 6:38:51 PM
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EMonz57
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ManyBrews, you said it crystal clear. Your modifications "can" cost your warranty but it doesn't mean it always will cost your warranty. In fact, I recently talked to the Mitsubishi tech where I'm at and he "told" me, in the event of a problem with my Evo, they would "NOT" void my warrant with my current mods unless they were %100 sure it caused the failure. To me it looks as though it depends on the dealer. By the way, your story above with the shot of nitrous is pretty extreme and it was obvious it caused the failure....
oh, sure.. Im not saying a muffler is gonna cost you a warranty. But I am warning that constant modifying can lead to loss of it.
once a person starts, it usually doesnt stop.
but to each their own. I like my diamante stock. it now has 198000 miles on it with EVERY driveline part bone stock original. it starts, runs great, zips me down the road at 80MPH all day long in silence, and gets 25 MPG doing it.
of course, a diamante isnt usually a candidate for "mods".
Thats the thing a good daily driver should be. My EVO isnt exactly a daily driver I only drive it like 3-4 times a month and that is the "toy" but a daily driver car I would never mod in any way other than a K&N drop in tops
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