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97 2dr 4g63 swap Q's - 8/26/2006 5:08:22 AM   
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i just recently accuierd a 97 mirage 2 door. dont know whats wrog with it besides it doent work, lol. not going to argue for free. but im not going to mess with the stock engine or tranny, im going to pull it out. my question is how difficult is it and what all needs to go into a 4g63 swap from a 99 GS-T eclipse? i know engine, 5speed tranny, ect, i would imagine the wiering harness. but do they make motor mounts for the swap or will i have to have them fabricated? ANY INFO WILL HELP!! as you can tell from my name im use to my merkur xr4ti's 2.3L turbo and rear wheel drive. this is all new to me.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/26/2006 5:09:31 AM   
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also sorry about all the damn typos, im sick right now and i hate this keyboard. i use to the one at work. i feel like a doofis now.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/28/2006 11:04:58 AM   
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if we're talking a 5th gen USDM mirage, forget it. the only way you're going to drop in a 4g63T is out of an Evo VII or VIII and will cost you well over $10k. If you want a swap, I've heard the Lancer RA engine fists with some modifications.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/28/2006 10:42:53 PM   
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im not sure if its 4th gen or 5th gen. how do i tell the differance? what are key things i need to look at to see if i can do it? im just looking to keep it fwd.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/29/2006 1:39:51 AM   
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97+ = 5th generation. The Ralli Art lancer 2.4L MIVEC does something like 160hp at the flywheel stock, so if you're wanting power NA, that's the way to go. Do you have the 4g15 (1.5L) or 4g93 (1.8L). Another option is to turbo your current engine. I've got a 4g15 running about 9 pounds of boost and I'm in love with it. Ya, there's better ways to make power, but turbocharging your current set up will probably be the most cost effective way of getting power. If you've got the 1.8 engine, you're capable of well over 500whp and low 11's in the 1/4

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/29/2006 2:03:56 AM   
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i think its the 1.5 but i havent payed to much attention to it, i just got it. if you have yahoo messanger message me at weslee_mccrea id like to talk to you more about it. its a little bit difficult on here. i would kinda like to know what is keeping me from doing the swap.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/29/2006 3:37:32 AM   
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the RA Lancer motor will NOT fit in that Mirage. The 4G69 is fly by wire and in order to get it into the car it would require you to not just get the harness and ECU and engien tranny combo, but just about EVERYTHING under the hood of a Ralliart. Its just different with MIVEC now and everything. But the 4G64 might be a STRONG viable option for you.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 8/29/2006 3:42:22 AM   
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well including that i have a 99 eclipse GST parts car lined up with a perfectly good 4g63, good tranny, ecu, and full uncut harness, and a damn good smokeing deal on it thats the way i would like to go.

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 3/25/2008 4:43:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lil Evo

97+ = 5th generation. The Ralli Art lancer 2.4L MIVEC does something like 160hp at the flywheel stock, so if you're wanting power NA, that's the way to go. Do you have the 4g15 (1.5L) or 4g93 (1.8L). Another option is to turbo your current engine. I've got a 4g15 running about 9 pounds of boost and I'm in love with it. Ya, there's better ways to make power, but turbocharging your current set up will probably be the most cost effective way of getting power. If you've got the 1.8 engine, you're capable of well over 500whp and low 11's in the 1/4


can u please tell me where to get a turbo kit for 2001 mirage 1.8 with A/T
also what would i need to do?also how much for the kit?thanks for ur time

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RE: 97 2dr 4g63 swat Q's - 3/25/2008 6:23:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EACISR

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lil Evo

97+ = 5th generation. The Ralli Art lancer 2.4L MIVEC does something like 160hp at the flywheel stock, so if you're wanting power NA, that's the way to go. Do you have the 4g15 (1.5L) or 4g93 (1.8L). Another option is to turbo your current engine. I've got a 4g15 running about 9 pounds of boost and I'm in love with it. Ya, there's better ways to make power, but turbocharging your current set up will probably be the most cost effective way of getting power. If you've got the 1.8 engine, you're capable of well over 500whp and low 11's in the 1/4


can u please tell me where to get a turbo kit for 2001 mirage 1.8 with A/T
also what would i need to do?also how much for the kit?thanks for ur time



Sorry newb, AT + turbo= kiss your tranny goodbye.

Here's what you'll need in a nutshell, and I'm sure I'm going to miss a few things.
-turbo manifold
-turbo
-custom downpipe and exhaust
-wastegate and dump pipe
-intercooler
-intercooler piping
-blow off valve
-bigger injectors
-adjustable fuel pressure regulator
-bigger fuel pump
-some sort of tuning software
-swap to manual transmission
-upgraded clutch

There's more, but these are the major parts.

Oh, and you'll probably want to overhaul your motor before going turbo since it's a seven year old platform. Don't bother with it if you're on any sort of budget either. You're looking at spending a minimum of $3k for a decent set up, and that's if you install it yourself. Try bout double that if you puss out and have a shop install it.

And for future reference, please don't bring back age old threads.


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